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		<title>Tak</title>
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		<updated>2014-11-27T18:04:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ferretofstone: /* Annotation */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Tak &#039;&#039;wrote&#039;&#039; the world, according to the dwarfs, but unlike most [[The gods|gods]] he does not require that the dwarfs think of him, merely that they do think. This makes him exceptional amongst Discworld gods who, without belief, would fade away to nothing more than small gods, eternally blown by the winds of mischance and always lamenting their loss of status and godhood.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a huge argument over what Tak actually wrote, to the point where there was almost a war amongst the dwarves. The ancient rendering of the text, held to be canon since time immemorial is:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The first thing Tak did, he wrote himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The second thing Tak did, he wrote the Laws.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The third thing Tak did, he wrote the World.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The fourth thing Tak did, he wrote a cave.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The fifth thing Tak did, he wrote a geode, an egg of stone.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;And in the twilight of the mouth of the cave, the geode hatched, and the Brothers were born.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The first Brother walked toward the light, and stood under the open sky. Thus he became too tall. He was the first Man. He found no Laws and he was enlightened.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The second Brother walked toward the darkness, and stood under a roof of stone. Thus he achieved the correct height. He was the first Dwarf. He found the Laws Tak had written, and he was endarkened.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;But some of the living spirit of Tak was trapped in broken stone egg, and it became the first Troll, wandering the world unbidden and unwanted, without soul or purpose, learning or understanding. fearful of light and darkness it shambles forever in twilight, knowing nothing, learning nothing, creating nothing, being nothing...&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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From &#039;Gd Tak `Gar&#039; (The Things Tak Wrote), translated by Prof. W. W. W Wildblood, available from [[Unseen University]] Press for AM$8. In the original, the last paragraph of the quoted text appears to have been added by a much later hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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This last addition, of course, is a negative description of a troll and has been ever used as one of the justifications (as if one were needed) to fight and kill trolls, as they are unwanted and unblessed by Tak.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, there is a second possible translation, one that is unpopular and many dwarves wanted it declared heresy. At the time of the most notable [[battle of Koom Valley]], the ancient dwarven [[Low King]] [[B&#039;hrian Bloodaxe]] had come to meet [[Diamond King|Diamond]], king of the trolls, to sign a peace-treaty, ending centuries of warfare between the two races, but they were betrayed on both sides by those who preferred the warfare, and the second translation was lost.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the events of {{T!}}, Sir [[Samuel Vimes]] gets involved with the new Low King, [[Rhys Rhysson]] and together they hear the new translation, which is the same until the third part, where it changes considerably:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Then Tak looked upon the stone and it was trying to come alive, and Tak smiled, and wrote&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;All things strive.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;And for the service the stone had given, he fashioned it into the first Troll, and delighted in the life that came unbidden. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;These are the things that Tak wrote!&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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This now makes it clear that Tak &#039;&#039;approved&#039;&#039; of trolls and looked on them as blessed &#039;&#039;just as much as&#039;&#039; dwarves. Suddenly we can see why it was considered heretical by hard-liners.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Rhys Rhysson]] and [[Mr. Shine]], the new [[Diamond King]] of the trolls have used this to create a state of truce where many of the leaders of the most important dwarfish and trollish clans have come together to see whether a state of non-warfare between the two races can be achieved.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Annotation==&lt;br /&gt;
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Compare this to the creation-myth of the Dwarves in Tolkien&#039;s &#039;&#039;{{wp|Silmarillion|Silmarillion}}&#039;&#039;. Here, right at the dawning of Middle-earth and before even the awakening of Elves, the Vala (angelic being) named Aulë, whose part in the making of Middle-earth had to do with shaping rock and mountain and placing metals and precious stones where the One God&#039;s creation would eventually find them, is pondering the place they have made. And how empty it is without intelligent life to appreciate and care for it. Thinking of the promise that one day, intelligent beings would arise in God&#039;s own time, he tries to jump the gun a bit, and makes the first Dwarves from the materials nearest to hand (stone, clay and metal). God, who sees all, got narked at this and manifested to berate Aulë for his presumption. He points out that only he can create such living beings - all Aulë, being a mere Archangelic Demiurge, has managed is to create hollow shells and the semblance of life, just puppets of his own making. Aulë offers to destroy his creation in penitence: but the Dwarves drop to their knees and beg him not to. Aulë realises in this instant that the Dwarves have ceased to be puppets, and are now fully alive and awake. For God has relented, and adopts Dwarves as a fully sentient part of his creation, but warns Aulë that &amp;quot;ever strife shall arise between thine and mine, the creatures of my own creation and the creatures of my adoption&amp;quot;. In short, &amp;quot;You have been warned. These are going to be some right stroppy little buggers&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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God then takes the first created Dwarves out of the care and sight of Aulë (who has ever after been reverenced by Dwarfs above all other Valar) and set them to sleep in seven  different parts of Middle-earth, so as to awaken into life after the Elves and before Men.&lt;br /&gt;
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Compare also Tak (as a mythological creator) with the actual [[Creator]] from {{E}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tak is one of the Polish words Himself has snuck in.  Have you checked any [[More Polish]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Supernatural entities]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Tak]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>More Polish</title>
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		<updated>2014-11-27T17:56:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ferretofstone: Created page with &amp;quot;There are some Polish language words in Discworld which don&amp;#039;t seem to be grouped elsewhere.  Probably fell off the edge, missing the circumfence, or something.  So far the...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;There are some Polish language words in Discworld which don&#039;t seem to be grouped elsewhere.  Probably fell off the edge, missing the [[circumfence]], or something.  So far the count is three (or four if you&#039;re fussy): Schmaltz as in [[Schmaltzberg]], [[Sto Lat]] and [[Tak]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Sto Lat</title>
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		<updated>2014-11-27T17:51:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ferretofstone: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Nation Data&lt;br /&gt;
|title= Kingdom of Sto Lat&lt;br /&gt;
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|neighbours= [[Ankh-Morpork]], [[Pseudopolis]], [[Sto Helit]]&lt;br /&gt;
|features= Large rock left when the ice glaciers retreated, upon which is built the castle.&lt;br /&gt;
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|government= Monarchy, current ruler: [[Keli|Queen Keli]]&lt;br /&gt;
|notablecitizens= Wizard [[Igneous Cutwell]], &lt;br /&gt;
|imports= Goods&lt;br /&gt;
|exports= Cabbages, &lt;br /&gt;
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|books= {{M}}, {{GP}}, {{UA}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Surrounded by cabbages, the kingdom of &#039;&#039;&#039;Sto Lat&#039;&#039;&#039; lies at the base of the vast [[Sto Plains]], only about 20 miles from [[Ankh-Morpork]]. It appears to be a very old city, the source of the ancient language of the rimward Sto Plains, [[Latatian]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Home to Princess [[Keli]] (now Queen Keli) and the Wizard [[Igneous Cutwell]], Sto Lat contains or controls the city-states of [[Sto Helit]], [[Sto Kerrig]], and other territories, such as the Long Thin Debated Piece Hubwards of Sto Kerrig. ([[Mort]] was made Duke of Sto Helit after his delivery of Keli from, well, himself.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Major appearance in: &#039;&#039;[[Book:Mort|Mort]]&#039;&#039;. Also appears in &#039;&#039;[[Book:Going Postal|Going Postal]]&#039;&#039; as the first foreign city to which the revived Ankh-Morpork [[Post Office]] made an official delivery, and where [[Moist von Lipwig]] defrauded [[Adora Belle Dearheart]] at the bank. In &#039;&#039;[[Book:Going Postal|Going Postal]]&#039;&#039;, it has a Mayor, suggesting that the day to day affairs of running the town, such as welcoming the Mail and excluding suspect musical acts, are undertaken by [[Joe Camels|the Mayor]], whilst the Queen oversees the more important affairs of state. Sto Lat also has a prestigious Military Academy, and may once have had a less-than-prestigious [[Army]] regiment and is home to [[Apsly&#039;s Commercial Bank]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The name is derived from a {{wp|Sto_Lat|Polish song}} equivalent to the English &amp;quot;For he&#039;s a jolly good fellow,&amp;quot; in which the subject is wished a life one hundred years (&amp;quot;sto lat&amp;quot;) long.  There&#039;s [[More Polish]] in Discworld if you look for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Discworld geography]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Sto Lat]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Discworld &amp; Pratchett Wiki:Getting started</title>
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		<updated>2014-11-27T17:45:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ferretofstone: /* So, how do I edit a page? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;So, you want to start contributing to the wiki? Great!&lt;br /&gt;
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==So, how do I edit a page?==&lt;br /&gt;
On top of the page you&#039;ll find an &amp;quot;edit&amp;quot; link. Clicking on that edits the whole page. Pages with subsections also have a per-section &amp;quot;edit&amp;quot; link, which is a bit easier.&lt;br /&gt;
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[Dearie, dearie.  I couldn&#039;t find it until I&#039;d created an account and logged in.  I WAS being dim, but it took me days to work it out.]&lt;br /&gt;
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The text uses Wiki-formatting. You don&#039;t have to know it all, as there&#039;s a small button bar which can insert the right code to, for example, bold text. One of the most important codes is &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[this one]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;, which translates the text between the brackets to a link to another page in this wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before saving, always click on &amp;quot;show preview&amp;quot; to check whether the changes you made look good and contain no spelling errors. If it looks good, click on &amp;quot;save page&amp;quot; and the content is there for everybody to enjoy.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to try something, please use the [[Discworld &amp;amp;amp; Pratchett Wiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]. It is meant specifically to try things out and mess about. If you&#039;re looking for articles to start editing on, look at the [[Featured Article]] on the [[Main Page]] or browse the [[:Category:Stubs|Stubs category]] which contains articles which are in need of adding and editing.&lt;br /&gt;
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==So, how do I create a new page?==&lt;br /&gt;
We&#039;d prefer it if the articles that are already there are improved first. If it&#039;s really necessary to create a new page, simply make a link to it. For example, it you want to write a new article about Treacle Mine Road, find an article which mentions it and make a link out of it (by enclosing the word or words in &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. Save the page, and when you click on the freshly made link, you&#039;ll be taken to the new page and can start editing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another way is to type the page title you want to use in the search box on the left and click &amp;quot;Go&amp;quot; (or press enter). If the page doesn&#039;t exist, you&#039;ll be offered to start it on the search result page. Don&#039;t forget to link other pages to the new page.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Do not create new pages which aren&#039;t linked anywhere in the wiki!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
The great thing about the wiki is that articles interlink, are connected to other articles, which makes browsing easier with the added bonus of being able to discover something new on the way. An article which isn&#039;t linked is practically unfindable, while the whole point of the wiki is to make information available.&lt;br /&gt;
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==So, how do I become an all powerful sysop that everybody should bow to?==&lt;br /&gt;
That&#039;s entirely up to me. If I notice your contributions you&#039;ll get promoted eventually.&lt;br /&gt;
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==So, where do I find more about editing a wiki?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s the [[Help:Editing|Editing help]] link on the bottom of the edit page.&lt;br /&gt;
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==But I&#039;m only here to browse and research. How do I find the information I&#039;m looking for?==&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome, Researcher! Can we remind you&lt;br /&gt;
* A good starting point is to enter the term you want to use in the search box on the left, and click &amp;quot;Go&amp;quot; (or press enter). If the page doesn&#039;t exist, perhaps try a related search term, or check your spelling. &lt;br /&gt;
* There is also the edited list of categories that offers an alternative form of searching, although we concede these are not perfect.&lt;br /&gt;
* You can get there in a sneaky sideways sort of way by going to Bibliography for the title of the book where you know or suspect your reference is, opening the page, and checking out the cross-references. &lt;br /&gt;
* As this is a work in progress, while it&#039;s &#039;&#039;fairly&#039;&#039; full and comprehensive, it&#039;s neither complete not finished. We look on it like painting the Forth Bridge. If you&#039;ve searched and cross-referenced and &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; can&#039;t find the reference... well, why not go back to point one and add it? &lt;br /&gt;
* If it&#039;s already there, don&#039;t worry: the new pages are regularly patrolled and sysop/admins are usually on hand for guidance. We don&#039;t shout at you for being enthusiastic and making little mistakes!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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