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<p>Iamleo: /* The hedgehog song - from 1956 */</p> <hr /> <div>I don't think it's a filk at all. It's an original song, not a parody of anything (except maybe ribald old folk songs with dozens of verses generally.) --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 17:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==In the news==<br /> Environment Minister Rory Stewart recently spoke eloquently against a [http://www.countryliving.co.uk/news/should-the-hedgehog-become-britains-national-symbol proposal] to make the hedgehog Britain's national animal symbol. Naturally, you don't want to upset the lions but the Minister did not acknowledge the hedgehog's impenetrability. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 18:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==A competitor==<br /> The {{wp|Actinopyga agassizii|five-toothed sea cucumber}} may be unknown on Discworld. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 00:22, 18 March 2020 (UTC)--[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 00:22, 18 March 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The hedgehog song - from 1956 ==<br /> <br /> I was browsing The Horntip Collection of folklore and I chanced across this 1956 publication [https://www.horntip.com/html/books_&amp;_MSS/1950s/1956_lusty_limericks_and_bawdy_ballads__dick_harde_(mimeo)/1956_lusty_limericks_and_bawdy_ballads_(lacking_pages)_(legman_copy)__dick_harde.pdf Lusty limericks and bawdy ballads by Dick Harde]. (actually written by a pair of numismatic pederasts, but that's besides the point)<br /> <br /> On page three you'll find the drinking song &quot;the hedgehog song&quot; pertaining to how &quot;the hedgehog had never been buggered at all&quot;.<br /> I'd always assumed Pratchett had written it as a throwaway gag, but the similarities are striking enough that it feels more likely to be a reference than a coincidence.<br /> <br /> This specific book is just a written collection of existing drinking songs, so it's possible he could have read or heard it somewhere other than here, although I can't find this version of the song referenced elsewhere.<br /> <br /> I can't find anywhere that Pratchett ever disclosed an inspiration or reference for the hedgehog song, but could this have been it?<br /> Has he ever said anything to the contrary? Is there any way this could be verified?</div>

Iamleo http://wiki.lspace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hedgehog_song&diff=31446 2021-02-03T00:00:58Z

<p>Iamleo: /* The hedgehog song - from 1956 */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>I don't think it's a filk at all. It's an original song, not a parody of anything (except maybe ribald old folk songs with dozens of verses generally.) --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 17:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==In the news==<br /> Environment Minister Rory Stewart recently spoke eloquently against a [http://www.countryliving.co.uk/news/should-the-hedgehog-become-britains-national-symbol proposal] to make the hedgehog Britain's national animal symbol. Naturally, you don't want to upset the lions but the Minister did not acknowledge the hedgehog's impenetrability. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 18:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==A competitor==<br /> The {{wp|Actinopyga agassizii|five-toothed sea cucumber}} may be unknown on Discworld. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 00:22, 18 March 2020 (UTC)--[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 00:22, 18 March 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The hedgehog song - from 1956 ==<br /> <br /> I was browsing The Horntip Collection of folklore and I chanced across this 1956 publication [https://www.horntip.com/html/books_&amp;_MSS/1950s/1956_lusty_limericks_and_bawdy_ballads__dick_harde_(mimeo)/1956_lusty_limericks_and_bawdy_ballads_(lacking_pages)_(legman_copy)__dick_harde.pdf Lusty limericks and bawd ballads by Dick Harde]. (actually written by a pair of numismatic pederasts, but that's besides the point)<br /> <br /> On page three you'll find the drinking song &quot;the hedgehog song&quot; pertaining to how &quot;the hedgehog had never been buggered at all&quot;.<br /> I'd always assumed Pratchett had written it as a throwaway gag, but the similarities are striking enough that it feels more likely to be a reference than a coincidence.<br /> <br /> This specific book is just a written collection of existing drinking songs, so it's possible he could have read or heard it somewhere other than here, although I can't find this version of the song referenced elsewhere.<br /> <br /> I can't find anywhere that Pratchett ever disclosed an inspiration or reference for the hedgehog song, but could this have been it?<br /> Has he ever said anything to the contrary? Is there any way this could be verified?</div>

Iamleo