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==The Long Earth==
I've finally gotten around to listening/reading [[Book:The Long Earth|The Long Earth]] series. Loving the concept! --[[User:Osiris|Osiris]] ([[User talk:Osiris|talk]]) 17:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
: This series was amazing! --[[User:Osiris|Osiris]] ([[User talk:Osiris|talk]]) 04:34, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

==Taking leave ==
I'll be off buying cigars and incommunicado next week. Somebody might pull an extra shift on watch. Hasta luego! --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 01:19, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
:will do what I can.... how long are you visiting [[Sumtri]] for? [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 19:10, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Hola! I'm back. Stuff seems to have been done. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 04:13, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

==Namespaces==
The new page [[Book:The Rince Cycle]] points out a need for one or more namespaces for works that aren't Books or Short Stories, unless I'm missing something: this one's a playscript but there are other things. Discuss. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 01:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)<BR>
(''copied from Talk:Book:The Rince Cycle''):<BR>
:Well, we've done LP records, CD's, TV adaptations, computer games..... and the playscripts are listed in the biography and all appear to be redlinked, as if the option is there to create articles.... I'd say why not? [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 18:55, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Why indeed, but the question is how to define a namespace (or what to call it). It could be Peripherals: as the category, but shorter would be better. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 22:54, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

==Mirabile Dictu==
Chaffinch's [[Ancient and Classical Mythology]] is now the fourth most popular page here. Huh? --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 01:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

:I'm wondering if people looking for ''Bulfinch's Ancient and Classical'' are getting their ornithology wrong on a Google search; they can vaguely remember the guy they're looking for is ''some'' sort of finch but not which exact kind. I hang around on Yahoo Answers now and again just for fun and to do some corrective trolling. it's amazing how many disinterested schoolchildren put up please for people to do their homework for them when they can't be bothered to do their own research, and to be honest, a lot of them are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. I have a lovely picture in my head of a fairly dense American schoolchild being told to look up Greek mythology, steered to look for Mr Bulfinch, who gets it wrong and ends up on our wiki instead. Thus ending up writing about Blind Io, Petunia, Offler, Epidity, Bissonomy and the rest of the Dunmanifestin gang. Then confidently handing it in.... [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 11:21, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

The [[Special:Popularpages|statistics]] continue to boggle my mind. The main page approaches 3.5 million views, up a million since the New Year. The popularity ranking of views for individual pages may be obvious or wildly unlikely. At the end of 2014 I put up a short history of the wiki to fill in the "About" page. Who looks at the "About" page? They may reach 10,000 by the end of February! [[Lies-To-Children]] is more popular than [[Ankh-Morpork]]! [[Ptraci]] and [[Pseudopolis]] don't make the top 500. [[Ankh]] languishes at 2630th...Wot's it all abaht, then? --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 02:46, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I also cannot help but notice that new pages I started, to fill in gaps about obscure or very minor characters and situations/ places, went from 0 views to well over 600 within hours of posting. In my experience a brand-new page tends to get 8-20 hits in the first few days, I guess from regulars looking at it out of curiosity. But 644? Something odd is happening. [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 22:57, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

:Think bots! Remember just because spammers now find it difficult to post here it doesn't mean we don't still get scanned. --[[User:Osiris|Osiris]] ([[User talk:Osiris|talk]]) 13:08, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

==Possible Outage==
I've asked the cabal to make a DNS change. This should be transparent to you guys but there was a small unplanned outage last time we made a change. This change will let me cut my hosting costs by about a third so that's a good thing. --[[User:Osiris|Osiris]] ([[User talk:Osiris|talk]]) 04:34, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
: Never noticed. Glad to hear the financial burden is reduced. I'm still hoping to get together with my son-in-law the interweb marketing wallah to discuss revenue possibilities. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 04:32, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
::They apparently haven't made the change yet. But once they do this won't be a big deal to afford. I'd over engineered to begin with but now it's only costing about $25/month. --[[User:Osiris|Osiris]] ([[User talk:Osiris|talk]]) 13:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

=='''Thursday, March 12, 2015'''==
What are we supposed to write today? A good journalist (like Terry Pratchett) would suck it up and write a thousand words of inspiring prose and biographical notes. I'm not that good; I'm too depressed. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 20:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
:It was just so sudden...--[[User:Zdm|Zdm]] ([[User talk:Zdm|talk]]) 20:40, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
::I have, on occasion, thought about how terrible it would be to wake up one day to the news that Sir Pterry had died, but actually waking up to the news was shocking and a very different thing. I don't know what there is to say or write here beyond what has already been said by countless others... [[User:TC01|TC01]] ([[User talk:TC01|talk]])

[https://www.reddit.com/r/discworld/comments/2yt9j6/gnu_terry_pratchett/cpcvz46 A man is not dead while his name is still spoken.] [[User:TC01|TC01]] ([[User talk:TC01|talk]]) 02:18, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Discworld & Pratchett Wiki:Mended Drum

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Category:Camels

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Camels are the greatest mathematicians on the disc and have a natural ability to perfrom quadratic equations. Indeed, the captive specimens in the Palace [[Menagerie]] in [[Ankh-Morpork]] are kept in a unique cage where the bars are horizontal rather than vertical, and large coloured beads are threaded on the bars for the camels to - apparently - randomly move along the bar as the fancy takes them. As - judging by the names given them by their handlers - the camels take very good care to disguise how intelligent they are, and nobody else appears to have noticed. Apart, perhaps, from [[Vetinari]], who has apparently decreed that his camels should be imprisoned with access to cage bars that function like an abacus, or maybe a slide rule. This ''might'' be coincidence, but it would be simpler to assume they've been persuaded to do sums for the Patrician...

[[Category:Discworld Flora & Fauna]]

Category:The Dark Side of the Sun

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'''Characters, places, things and concepts from {{TDSOTS}}.'''

Talk:Power Cable

2013-01-04T17:44:04Z

TC01:

Hmmm. This title seems to defy categorisation. It's not a location, as presently stated: it's only a concept of The Author's unrelated to any action in the text. It's a ''Place'' (imaginary, at that), but it might be alone in that category; any ideas? --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 18:22, 2 January 2013 (PST)

:Concepts, possibly? Although it's not technically a Discworld concept so that one doesn't really fit either... "Roundworld concepts"? [[User:TC01|TC01]] ([[User talk:TC01|talk]]) 09:44, 4 January 2013 (PST)

Category:Supernatural entities

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'''For more information, see [[Supernatural Entities]].'''

[[Category:Discworld characters]]

Wizards' Magic

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==About wizard's magic==
[[Wizard's magic]] is one way to practise magic on Discworld. It is practised scientifically and is therefore almost the opposite of [[Witches magic]]. Wizards study magic for many years at a university (e.g. [[Unseen University]] or [[Bugarup University]]). They learn magic the hard way. Reading an uncountable number of books, passing hard tests, getting one (or several) of the many [[UU degrees|degrees]] available and practicing all day long makes a great wizard. Oh yes, and growing a beard and wearing a pointed hat also helps.

For wizards magic is science. All magic follows certain rules and if one knows the rules then one can master magic. On example is the ''conservation of energy'' (referred to as ''conservation of reality''). Simply speaking, things have to level out at the end. If something goes up, something else has to go down. An example of this was seen in ''[[Book:The Light Fantastic|The Light Fantastic]]'' where a wizard propels himself up the the [[Tower of Art]] by causing a stone to drop from the tower's roof. It is not too hard to turn a cat into a dog, because this is simply turning one existing thing into another one. But to create things out of nothing is totally different thing and almost impossible to do for a wizard.

Wizards like to use instruments specially made for the purposes of practicing magic. The wizard's staff is a familiar and intuitive example; it stores magic that wizard can use all at once. For seeing the world or even all possible times and spaces of the multiverse, the wizards have used the crystal ball and have now advanced to the [[omniscope]] which is, sadly, very expensive monetarily to produce and very expensive magically to operate. The [[thaumometer]] is an instrument to measure the amount of magic in the vicinity. They also always have a stuffed alligator, the existence of which has always been a bit of a mystery, as no-one, especially the wizards themselves, know why this seemingly random piece of occult junk always turns up in a wizard's study.

The more interested wizards (usually the younger ones) try to analyse and understand magic itself. In the [[High Energy Magic Building]] at Unseen University students together with [[Ponder Stibbons]] try to split the [[Thaum]], the smallest magic particle known so far. Wizards just love to tamper with reality and to babble about different possible dimensions. One of the newer projects is the creation of [[Hex]], a magical supercomputer.

The most general form of wizard's magic is encountered in form of illusions, fireballs and occasional calling of ghastly things from the [[Dungeon Dimensions]]. Wizards can store magic in their wizard's [[staff]], which is about 6 feet long and has a knob at the end (hua, hua, hua, hmm...).

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==Wizardly Interactions==
Wizards have a great disrespect for witches, because they perform magic without really knowing the science. They also think that priests and gods in general should not be taken too seriously.

In the old days wizards frequently killed each other to move up the career ladder (known in arcane circles as "Dead Man's Pointy Shoes"). At least for the wizards at [[Unseen University]] this has come to a complete stop with the new Archchancellor [[Mustrum Ridcully]], because he likes to sneak up on people while holding a crossbow and shouting "buh", and is quite frankly deemed to be unkillable by wizardly standards. Today, wizards spend their time eating great meals at least five times a day and sleeping in between (see ''[[Book:Reaper Man|Reaper Man]]'').

[[Sourcerer|Sourcerers]] are extremely powerful wizards who can create and channel magic at will. There is almost no barrier to their power.

== How to Identify a Wizard ==
Unlike the [[witches magic|witches]], wizards had never been discriminated against, only feared in the bad old days when there were no civic arrangements and wizards warred amongst themselves and killed whichever non-magical civilians who got in their way. Nowadays, wizards tell themselves not to attack civilians (because that would be an unsporting act); wizards don't use magic to fight amongst themselves, so there is no stray magic hitting innocent bystanders; and wizards in [[Ankh-Morpork]] even pay a voluntary contribution to the city, coincidentally equal in amount to the city tax. Nowadays, wizards are respected or looked at with slight suspicion and bewilderment, but not fear. The more famous faculty members of Unseen University are city dignitaries. The UU Archchancellor attends meetings with the [[Patrician]] just as the [[Guilds of Ankh-Morpork|guild leaders]] and [[Hughnon Ridcully|important priests]] do. So, wizards find it very advantageous to advertise the fact that they are wizards. Wizards like to wear pointy
hats, boots with curled points, and velvet robes with a lot of mystic sigil embroidery, sequins, and ankhstone (like rhinestone but from the [[Ankh (river)|river Ankh]]). Most wizards like huge meals and become quite round-shaped by middle-age. A beard is often expected of wizards, and the lack thereof is one of the stumbling blocks for [[Ponder Stibbons]], the youngest top faculty in [[Unseen University]].

To summarize: When you see what appears to be a small hill with velvet pointy hat and velvet robe with extremely many shiny bits, you are encountering a wizard.

==Orders and Levels of Wizardry==

Wizards are organized into 8 "orders", and all high-level wizards belong to one of these orders. Each order has 1 8th-level wizard (the head of the order), 8 7th-level wizards, and 64 6th-level wizards.

We do not know:

* If the geometric progression above continues below level 6 (it probably doesn't continue to level 1, since this would mean each order has 2,097,152 wizards for a total of 16,777,216 1st-level wizards, a bit high given the total population of the Disc)

* If all lower-level wizards belong to an order (for example, [[Rincewind]], a level 0 (or, arguably, level -1) wizard, does not appear to belong to an order). The parallel might be the fraternity system at American universities: not all students are frat members, and, especially in the case of the socially prestigious or desirably "cool" frats, membership is by invitation only - the onus is on the potential new member to demonstrate what they could bring to the frat. This also reflects the organisational principle of secret societies in general: you do not contact them. ''They'' will approach ''you''.

* How broadly the levels/orders system is used outside of the [[Sto Plains]]. For example, "wizards" in Klatch call themselves "enchanters", and [[Greicha the First]] the late head of [[Wyrmberg]] refers to himself as a wizard of the 15th "rank" (not level).

Orders, like their leaders and Archchancellors, rise and disappear over the years, sometimes in a natural flow, sometimes suddenly and violently. Despite their "Ancient" and "Venerable" names, most are quite recent institutions. The exception is ''Mrs. Widgery's Lodgers'', which dates from the foundation of the University when internal dormitory space was limited.

The current eight orders (mostly from [[The Light Fantastic]]):



<table border>
<tr><th>Order Name</th><th>Head(s) of Order</th><th>Known Members & Comments</th></tr>
<tr><td>[[Ancient and Truly Original Brothers of the Silver Star]] a.k.a. Order of the Silver Star</td><td>[[Skrelt Changebasket]] (founder), [[Archchancellor]] [[Galder Weatherwax]], [[Ymper Trymon]], [[Archchancellor]] [[Cutangle]], [[Skarmer Billias]]</td><td> Vice Chancellor [[Treatle]] was a member during the events of {{ER}}. Cutangle is referred to as 'Archmage of the Silver Star' which could be the title for the head of this order.  </td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Sages of the Unknown Shadow]]</td><td>[[Hector Tugelbend]], [[Gravie Derment]] </td><td> </td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Ancient and Truly Original Sages of the Unbroken Circle]] a.k.a. Illuminated Mages of the Unbroken Circle</td><td>[[Greyhald Spold]], [[Rhunlet Vard]]</td><td>the unbroken circle is apparently quite important: there are two orders named after it (either that or the members of the Unbroken Circle refer to themselves in two different ways?)</td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Brothers of the Order of Midnight]]</td><td>[[Lumuel Panter]]</td><td> </td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Venerable Council of Seers]]</td><td>[[Ganmack Treehallet]]</td><td> [[Spelter]] was a member of the order  </td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Brotherhood of the Hoodwink]] a.k.a. the Hoodwinkers</td><td>[[Jiglad Wert]], [[Marmaric Carding]]</td><td> </td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Mrs Widgery's Lodgers]]</td><td>[[Ransak Boggett]] </td><td>the oldest of the current orders dating back to the founding of the university when living space was at a premium</td></tr>
<tr><td>[[The Last Order]] a.k.a. the Other Order</td><td>[[Eliaz Churn]] </td><td> </td></tr>
</table>

It could be added here that the massive magical war that took place in {{S}} seriously depleted the ranks of Wizardry and the original Eight Orders. Afterward, in the hangover that followed the passing of the [[Sourcerer]], and an awareness that it might not be wise for Wizards to shout about it too much - not to mention the accession of [[Mustrum Ridcully]] as Archchancellor - the Eight Orders seem to have declined in relative importance and influence - we hear less about the individual Orders and more about the collegiate integrity of the University as a whole. Perhaps their importance as hotbeds of plotting and mutual hatred made sense in the old, more fluid, University politics, but today, with one relatively unkillable Archchancellor, are something of an anachronism.

== Sub-wizards ==
{{ER}} tells us that people who can't make it as wizards may end up as (in descending order):

* [[Magicians]]
* [[Conjurers]]
* [[Thaumaturgists]]

There are also dismissive references to [[enchantress|enchantresses]] (witches with a nice set of legs) and [[Warlock_(profession)|warlocks]] (male witches).

==Books==
Wizards appear in various supporting or leading roles in the following books in several capacities:
:as people who try to take advantage of [[Rincewind]].
:as people who investigate anomalies in reality.
:as people who advance hypotheses about the space-time continuum.
:as tinkerers of reality.

*{{TCOM}}
*{{TLF}}
*{{ER}}
*{{S}}
*{{E}}
*{{MP}}
*{{RM}}
*{{LL}}
*{{SM}}
*{{IT}}
*{{H}}
*{{TLC}}
*{{TLH}}
*{{UA}}
*{{SOD1}}
*{{SOD2}}
*{{SOD3}}
*''[[Short Story:A Collegiate Casting-Out of Devilish Devices|A Collegiate Casting-Out of Devilish Devices]]

[[Category:Wizards]]

Category:Discworld Timeline

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Here you can find references to events which relate to the [[Discworld Timeline]] as well as actual dates and years and what happened in/on them.

All the years are in [[University Calendar]] (UC). 1 UC is equivalent to 1282 in the [[Ankh-Morpork Calendar]] (AM), but note that 1 AM year is actually 2 UC years.

User talk:TC01

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TC01:

Hey! I just mentioned auld acquaintance and here you are. Happy New Year! --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 09:18, 31 December 2012 (PST)
:The same to you!
:I'd noticed the new wiki was here a few weeks ago, but wasn't sure if old user accounts would ever get moved over (as the notice at the top currently still claims). As I now have some of that quasi-mythical Free Time, I figured it was as good a moment as any to create a new account and do some editing again. [[User:TC01|TC01]] ([[User talk:TC01|talk]]) 18:57, 31 December 2012 (PST)

User:TC01

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I'm '''TC01'''... (obviously)... I've used this as a username elsewhere and keep it the same on different sites, for the most part.

I've read almost all Discworld books, with several exceptions, including:

* The Tiffany Aching young witches books
* Anything listed under [[Bibliography#Miscellany|Miscellany]] (with the exception of the {{SOD1}} series)
* Unreleased books still floating around the shelves of [[L-space]]

I have read exactly one of the non-Discworld books thus far, and that was {{TDSOTS}}. It was pretty good, so hopefully I'll get to others in the future.

I spell, or rather type, like an American, which is almost certainly because I am one. The only possible exception to that might be when I type out {{COM}}, but I usually don't since I let the template do it for me.

I do most of my reading these days on an Amazon Kindle, which is not actually that different from reading a real book (other than the inability to open it up to a random page and start reading). There are a few Pratchett books which I have only on the Kindle- which makes it handy when searching them for some obscure red link on the book articles.

Book title acronyms

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Special templates to make links to books consistent (and easier.) The table below contains the books and their template code.

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|<nowiki>{{AGD}}</nowiki> || {{AGD}} - ''Assassins' Guild Diary''

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Template:TWOP

2012-06-11T21:06:22Z

TC01: We might as well have one of these

''[[Book:The World of Poo|The World of Poo]]''

Talk:Book:The World of Poo

2012-06-11T21:05:16Z

TC01: whoops

Ah. A bit of pickle, this. As it is a work of fiction ''written on the Disc'', should we accept it as canon? The footnotes are factual, Gargoyle's digestive tracts, gongfemers and so on, but is Geoffrey real, and does he deserve a page? And what of Louis? Or Plain Old Humphrey? Or Lily? And should we note the events of the book in the Harry King or Charles Lavatory page?--[[User:Stanley Howler|Stanley Howler]] 19:03, 11 June 2012 (CEST)

:Maybe it's time for a category 'Character's fictional on the Disc'? --[[User:LilMaibe|LilMaibe]] 21:34, 11 June 2012 (CEST)

I would say characters deserve pages, but possibly just pages in the Discworld culture category. We could make a Fictional characters category of some sort but if this book is the only published Disc fiction that would fill it maybe a Category:The World of Poo characters would be better? But since we know it's in-universe fiction I don't think the characters are ''real'' in the same way [[Sam Vimes]] is "real". (Of course, I just opened myself up to the counterargument that neither of them are real, which is of course technically correct, but you know what I mean).

And for mentioning it on other pages.. maybe in a separate section on the article, like the annotations section? Or possibly just a paragraph along the lines of "He is mentioned in [[Felicity Beedle]]'s story [[Book:The World of Poo|The World of Poo]] as.. {insert details here}."?

I was going to suggest we distinguish the [[Book:The World of Poo|book published here]] and the [[The World of Poo|book published on the Disc]] for organizational reasons (it felt weird to me seeing Book:The World of Poo in the Discworld publications category). But maybe that would just create redundancies? [[User:TC01|TC01]] 23:04, 11 June 2012 (CEST)

Talk:Book:The World of Poo

2012-06-11T21:04:46Z

TC01:

Ah. A bit of pickle, this. As it is a work of fiction ''written on the Disc'', should we accept it as canon? The footnotes are factual, Gargoyle's digestive tracts, gongfemers and so on, but is Geoffrey real, and does he deserve a page? And what of Louis? Or Plain Old Humphrey? Or Lily? And should we note the events of the book in the Harry King or Charles Lavatory page?--[[User:Stanley Howler|Stanley Howler]] 19:03, 11 June 2012 (CEST)

:Maybe it's time for a category 'Character's fictional on the Disc'? --[[User:LilMaibe|LilMaibe]] 21:34, 11 June 2012 (CEST)

I would say characters deserve pages, but possibly just pages in the Discworld culture category. We could make a Fictional characters category of some sort but if this book is the only published Disc fiction that would fill it maybe a [[Category:The World of Poo characters]] would be better? But since we know it's in-universe fiction I don't think the characters are ''real'' in the same way [[Sam Vimes]] is "real". (Of course, I just opened myself up to the counterargument that neither of them are real, which is of course technically correct, but you know what I mean).

And for mentioning it on other pages.. maybe in a separate section on the article, like the annotations section? Or possibly just a paragraph along the lines of "He is mentioned in [[Felicity Beedle]]'s story [[Book:The World of Poo|The World of Poo]] as.. {insert details here}."?

I was going to suggest we distinguish the [[Book:The World of Poo|book published here]] and the [[The World of Poo|book published on the Disc]] for organizational reasons (it felt weird to me seeing Book:The World of Poo in the Discworld publications category). But maybe that would just create redundancies? [[User:TC01|TC01]] 23:04, 11 June 2012 (CEST)

Book:The World of Poo

2012-06-11T20:47:56Z

TC01: hrmph, this is apparently not possible

{{Book Data
|cover= [[File:TWOP.jpg|Cover art for {{PAGENAME}}]]
|date=Jun 7, 2012
|publisher=Doubleday
|isbn=0857521217
|pages=128
|rrp=£12.99
|series=Discworld Series
|characters= [[Geoffrey]], [[Grand-Mama]], [[Lily]].
|illustrations= [[Peter Dennis]]
|annotations=
|notes=
}}

"A charming tale for people of all ages (but especially for [[young Sam Vimes]]) from the pen of Miss [[Felicity Beedle]], Discworld's premier children's author."

This is a spin-off from {{SN}} and purports to be a childrens' book by the amazingly popular Felicity Beedle. This hardback reproduces the style and production of a typical Victorian/Edwardian book for children and is even signed by the author ''To Young Sam from Felicity Beadle''.

Illustrated by [[Peter Dennis]].

[[Category:Discworld Series]]
[[Category:Children's books]]
[[Category:Discworld publications]]

Rham-ap-Efan

2012-06-11T20:31:07Z

TC01: sp

[[Djelibeybi]]'s Admiral of the Fleet, a man described as the kind of person who always thought he was in charge of everything. (Except, perhaps, in his dealings with [[Dios]]?) He leads a Navy to war in {{SG}}.

[[Category:Human characters|Rham-ap-Efan]]
[[Category:Discworld characters|Rham-ap-Efan]]

Archchancellor's Hat

2011-11-06T00:57:14Z

TC01: er, that was almost right- except it's Carding, not Spelter

This was the badge of office for nearly two thousand years until the events of {{S}}, when it was presumed destroyed. Worn by over two hundred previous [[Archchancellor]]s, the hat is imbued with magic and has taken on a life of its own.

It manipulates [[Rincewind]] and [[Conina]] to take it to [[Klatch]], out of the reach of the Sourcerer. Once in Klatch, it finds its way to [[Abrim]], the Grand Vizier, a man who was frustrated in his first preferred career as a wizard by having been discovered to be too mentally unstable even for [[Unseen University]]. Abrim and the Hat fight a sucessful war against [[Coin]] until a lucky shot from [[Marmaric Carding]] gets through (admittedly, while Abrim is [[The Luggage|distracted]]) and destroys the wizards' Tower in [[Al-Khali]].

The Hat is missing, presumed de-millinered. Subsequent Archchancellors appear to have managed perfectly well without, and anyway [[Mustrum Ridcully]], an Archchancellor with a different set of priorities, would spurn it because there'd be nowhere for his fishing flies to go, and no handy little bit at the top that unscrews into a cup just big enough for a bracing shot of [[Bentinck's Very Old Peculiar Brandy]], from the bottle tailored to fit inside. Indeed, the ''new'' [[Mustrum Ridcully's Hat|Archchancellor's Hat]] also incorporates a cunningly tailored roll of oiled silk and four telescoping legs, which when extended produce a compact and serviceable tent. The new-model hat also incorporates pockets containing three days' iron rations, and an elasticated band holding a very small pistol crossbow, together with ample room for fishing flies. It has also been capacious enough for a mouse on a treadmill and various unspeakable nostrums against the male-pattern baldness Ridcully denies he has got.. ([[Crop circles|crop-circles]] of the scalp)

As the Archchancellor's Hat will, by its very nature, store up the accumulated magical wisdom of all who wear it, one wonders what essence of Ridcully is being infused in the fabric for the ''next'' wearer...
Note:In Unseen Academicals it is revealed Ridully DOES possess the Archchancellor's hat "worn through the ages", however he informs the Patrician that he does not like it as it "grumbles" a lot.

==Annotation==

Shades here - although it precedes it - of the Sorting Hat from Ms Rowling's stories about a boy wizard...

[[Category: Devices]]
[[de:Hut des Erzkanzlers]]

Talk:Archchancellor's Hat

2011-11-06T00:54:26Z

TC01: reference by consensus

But how did it get back from Klatch?

How did the hat escape destruction in the blast that killed Abrim while he was wearing it?

It doesn't appear in {{S}} again after its presumed destruction... It's easier to assume discontinuity between the two books. --[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 17:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:(You wrote the book on this, but since you ask...) I'd be amazed if it didn't come back. How? How did the Luggage get back from MUCH farther away? It's a very magical Hat, inhabited by the shades of many skilled Mages who were likely anxious to get away from sheep's eyeballs and curry and back to virtual dinners from the UU kitchens. Transporting a quarter-pound of tattered fabric a couple of hundred miles doesn't sound like a lot compared to other feats of magic we've heard of. The physical hat was blown up pretty thoroughly, but the souls and wits of the former wearers aren't susceptible to mere fireballs or such physical manifestations. There, isn't that easy?

__________________

Well, at least I wrote the fanfic.. I like to flatter myself that it fits as an account of how the Hat made it back to A-M and how it resolved a few continuity problems!

There is a kind of cop-out clause at the end of {{S}}, which ''might'' explain things. When just before Coin steps into Maligree's Garden for the last time, the Librarian exacts a promise from him to make everything as good as old. And I suppose "everything" implicitly includes the Hat... restored and replaced in that ''"out-of-the-way shelf where it ws no nuisance to anyone"''

But this isn't explicitly stated... and of course Coin doesn't restore ''everything'' as good as old. Abrim remains dead, Creosote isn't magically transplanted back to a restored pleasure dome where all the stolen wealth has reappeared, (he remains in A-M. siging bad poetry to besotted barmaids), and of course none of the dead Wizards are resurrected. (And three Horsemen never get their horses back). Rincewind remains in the Dungeon Dimensions for an arguable period of time, only to be released through the agency of Eric Thursley. But naught is said, until now, of the Hat...

--[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 16:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Kudos for that. I wish I'd have one of my fanfics mistaken for canon material, though possibly that could only happen in the occasionaly self-contradicting Discworldian universe.

Maybe the hat's just one of those unknown variables, like how trolls turned to stone in the sunlight in early Discworld books but now the Troll Watchmen walk around in full daylight. [[User:Doctor Whiteface|Doctor Whiteface]] 16:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== Lucky shot ==

But Spelter got through, not Coin. I'll find the reference soon. --Confusion 01:25, 6 November 2011 (CET)

:You're correct; I remember this bit too. So, changing it. [[User:TC01|TC01]] 01:54, 6 November 2011 (CET)

Nobby's note

2011-11-02T23:37:27Z

TC01: omitted word

The infamous note carried by [[Nobby Nobbs|Corporal Nobbs]] to prove that he is a human being.

The note reads:
<blockquote>I, after hearing evidence from a number of experts, including Mrs [[Slipdry]] the midwife,<BR>certify that the balance of probability is that the bearer of this document, [[Nobby Nobbs|C. W. St John Nobbs]] <BR>is a human being.
<BR>- Signed, [[Lord Vetinari]].
</blockquote>

Of course, no one believes that it is real...

[[Category:Things]]
[[de:Cecil Wormsborough St John Nobbs]]

Slide

2011-11-02T23:34:00Z

TC01: some more stuff

One of the more dangerous [[Troll drugs|drugs]] available to [[Trolls]], '''slide''' is first mentioned in {{T!}}. In [[Ankh-Morpork]], it has begun to replace the dominance of [[Slab]] as the troll stimulant of choice. Sounding somewhat similar to crack cocaine, Slide causes trolls to go on a rampage and think they can take on the world. They then think they have no need for sleep, or food, or drink, and soon enough, they have no need for life.

[[Chrysoprase]] claims that because of the increasing predominance of Slide, he has gotten out of the drugs business. In an effort to prove his sincerity, he turns a troll drug laboratory over to [[Sam Vimes]], who cynically notes that there's no profit in killing your customers.

[[Category:Discworld concepts]]

Talk:Death

2011-10-25T17:58:12Z

TC01: /* A tradition ends.. */ regrettably so

Now this [http://store.glennz.com/practicaljoke.html?gclid=CM_Sj6-Sg6wCFQJThwodOVvfOA] is a T-Shirt worth getting. --[[User:Zdm|Zdm]] 07:57, 25 October 2011 (CEST)

==Death quotes==

You can use [[Template:Death]] if you want to write Death quotes to get his special style of speech. You write normally with upper and lower case.

<nowiki>{{death|I don't know about you, }}he said, {{death|but I could murder a curry.}}</nowiki>

{{death|I don't know about you, }}he said, {{death|but I could murder a curry.}}

== Appearances ==

Aren't there other books where Death doesn't appear? {{TT}}? {{NW}}? --[[User:Sanity|Sanity]] 11:11, 29 January 2007 (CET)

:He appears in {{TT}} when Pin and Tulip die.
:[[User:Fhh98|Fhh98]] 01:15, 1 February 2007 (CET) (edit to add sig)

::He's in {{HFOS}} not sure about {{W}} though--[[User:Teletran|Teletran]] 16:40, 31 January 2007 (CET)

::Yeah, he's in both of them. I've edited it to say so.

: Death is in every single book except [Wee Free Men]

He's not in the new one - I've up[dated the page to reflect that.--[[Special:Contributions/78.86.159.223|78.86.159.223]] 01:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

==In the Discworld Companion==

According to the Discworld Companion (Gollancz first edition 1994), NINE people have visited the house of Death whilst still being alive. (p198)

Try as I might I can only make this EIGHT mortal visitors who have returned alive to the mortal world afterwards.

These are
*[[Rincewind]]
*[[Twoflower]]
*[[Ysabell]]
*[[Mort]]
*[[Albert]]
*[[Igneous Cutwell]] the wizard
*Princess [[Keli]]
*[[Susan Sto Helit]]

Unless Quoth the raven counts as a mortal person... in which case, Binky makes it ten...

So who is the ninth? The companion doesn't list them.

Thanks for the help... this is driving me nuts. I have considered the possibility the Companion might be wrong...[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 01:07, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

Also consider that they may be trying to drive you nuts – devious buggers, both of them.
The comment doesn't seem to have carried over to the New Companion. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 19:42, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

Just worked it out.... the ninth is, most probably, otherwise un-named plumber who was engaged by Albert and who installed the bath, sink and toilet. No doubt learning that in ''this'' place, there is no such time as "by next week, squire".

"He is believed to be one of only nine people to have visited the country of DEATH while still mortal"... {{NDC}}, paperback edition, p340... the quote is still there.

:Only, if he called in a plumber to do the bathroom...who built the rest of the place? (See annotation to [[Creosote]] re: estimate for Xanadu.) --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 22:23, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Death built the house. As I recall, Albert called in the plumber because Death had no grasp of the principles of plumbing; the pipes were hollow, etc.. [[Special:Contributions/198.54.202.130|198.54.202.130]] 17:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

:Again, the quote is on p.201 in mine, of 280 total. (Gollancz 2003, 9" tall.) --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 22:40, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Relationship with Granny Weatherwax ==

Death's rather... unique working relationship with Granny Weatherwax comes up repetitively in the books. I'm not sure about what you guys think, but I'd say it deserves a section in this article, or at least a mention. What do you think?[[Special:Contributions/198.54.202.130|198.54.202.130]] 16:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:By all means; if you have the research, write away. (Signing in first would be a bonus.) --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 19:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Inconsistency ==

I've noticed this both in the books and on this site: While I don't think much of it Death in early books has his name capitalized and his second-person references, such as His or He. However, the recent books don't do this. Any opinions on the definitive version? I've noticed this site, too, alternates between upper- and lower-case for his second-person. [[User:Doctor Whiteface|Doctor Whiteface]] 02:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

== Small Caps ==

I've been reading the series through Harper-Fiction, and from the book "Small Gods' onwards, Death doesn't speak in Small Caps, but in regular caps. This irks me beyond belief, does anyone know why? - Jason

To make it easier for the typesetter and to get the book out that much more quickly?--[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 09:46, 25 October 2011 (CEST)

== A tradition ends.. ==

Incidentally, {{SN}} must be the first mainstream Discworld novel, as opposed to one of the Tiffany Aching series, where Death does not make any sort of appearance whatsoever. People - and goblins - die, but no Death to usher them to the Desrt or goblin equivalent thereof.... (Prove me wrong and delete this...) This has been a feature of all the novels to date, and not seeing Death do a walk-on part made me quite sad... --[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 09:48, 25 October 2011 (CEST)

:Alas, you are correct- there is no Death cameo in this book. [[User:TC01|TC01]] 19:58, 25 October 2011 (CEST)

Slab

2011-10-17T00:28:10Z

TC01: separating general troll drug things from here, putting in separate article

A [[Troll drugs|drug]] used by [[Trolls]], consisting of ammonium chloride cut with radium. A growing problem in [[Ankh-Morpork]], because of the number of troll boys using it. [[Detritus]] has a One-Step program to help addicts. As of {{FOC}} there is also a one step program for the Dealers, since while Detritus is very careful to lie to Vimes about it, we are clearly informed that he nailed a dealer's ears to the wall. Detritus himself has had a Slab awareness campaign going since ''[[Feet of Clay]]'', telling people what happens to "them buggers what sells Slab to kids".

Slab: Jus' say 'AarrghaarrghpleeassennononoUGH'.

Commander Vimes apparently authorised this campaign.

The actual effects of Slab are similar to LSD with the Troll in question seeing things for a prolonged period, not causing any trouble, and just wandering off to look at the pretty pictures. While the Troll will usually go find somewhere quiet to enjoy the show, it has nasty side effects up to and including melting a trolls brain.

[[Chrysoprase]] is a suspected pipeline dealer in Slab, though as of {{T!}} he is attempting to claim he's getting out of the trade owing to the influx of young Trolls on [[Slide]]. During the book he even gives up the location of a drug lab to the watch though given that Mr Chrysoprase is a mobster the truth (or lack of) of his statement cannot be determined.

==Annotation==

Detritus's campaign is a parody of the "Just Say No" campaign, started by the BBC children's programme ''{{wp|Grange_Hill|Grange Hill}}'' after a storyline in which pupil Samuel "Zammo" McGuire battled heroin addiction.

[[Category:Discworld concepts]]
[[de:Platte]]

I Shall Wear Midnight

2011-10-16T14:22:13Z

TC01: Redirected page to Book:I Shall Wear Midnight

#REDIRECT [[Book: I Shall Wear Midnight]]

Hogfather

2011-10-16T14:15:23Z

TC01: Book templates

:''This article is about the character. For the book with the same name see {{H}}.''

The Hogfather is originally a winter [[god]]. In the deep winters, people of old feared that spring might never again come, so they gave bloody sacrifice of hogs to the Hogfather. Nowadays, the Hogfather is expected to travel in a sleigh pulled by hogs and every [[Hogswatchnight]] to bring gifts to all the children, or at least, those who believe in him; this yields a worshipper range of most of the [[Discworld (world)|Discworld]] except for the [[Counterweight continent]] and the [[Klatch (continent)|continent of Klatch]]. Despite this impressive range, crass commercialization of the holiday compromised the belief in Hogfather, and then interference from the [[Auditors of Reality]] severely threatened his existence (chronicled in ''[[Book:Hogfather|Hogfather]]'').

His residence is the [[Castle of Bones]] near the hub. The Hogfather is an ancient being, who has seemingly kept his present form for some time; in ''[[Hogfather]]'', [[Albert]] reminisces about his childhood memories of the Hogfather, more than 2000 years ago. The only difference in the Hogfather in that time seems to have been that he did not bring presents, but ''sausages and black puddings if you were lucky. But you always got a pink sugar piglet in the toe''.

He parodies the [[Roundworld]] {{wp|Father_Christmas|Father Christmas}} (the UK version of {{wp|Santa_Claus|Santa Claus}})

In the land of pine trees and deep snow and long winters, when the sun is below the horizon most of the day, in the piercing cold it can become a real question whether or not the sun will rise again in the morning. The voice of reason says it will rise, but there are many unreasonable voices in a person. In response to this question, the [[anthropomorphic personification|anthropomorphic wossname]] called the Hogfather arose. He had many forms throughout the centuries, and the man in the red suit was only the last of them. Susan saw them one after another. His first form was properly speaking porcomorphic, or pig-shaped. It was to this point that he retreated when ambushed by Mr Teatime. Despite his apparent task of distributing presents in the season of goodwill, sustained by the belief of children, on the longest night of the year it is still the role of the Hogfather to ensure that the Sun rises in the morning (comparable to [[Teppic]] ’s dynasty). It is no small thing to make the Sun rise. When he was able to resume his role, the Hogfather seemed to salute Death as an equal. He did not thank him. “Ho Ho Ho,” notwithstanding, he was not a personification of many words.

When the Hogfather was attacked, Death, like an expert mechanic hearing a change in the sound of an engine, had heard a harmonic change in the music of the universe. He was able to enter the congruent reality of the Hogfather in a way in which he could not enter the domain of the Tooth Fairy. Death applied first aid to sustain belief in the Hogfather among children, and recruited Susan, even Hex.

When Mr Teatime had failed, the Auditors attacked the Hogfather directly, in the form of hounds. It was necessary for Susan, as a human being, to be the one to act to save him. To do this she had to leave behind her inner babysitter, and be with her belief. It was not simple. At a point where the hog she was riding teetered on an icy ridge, precipitous drops on both sides, she repeated to herself, “He’ll catch me if I fall,” but an older voice within her said, “No, he won’t. If I fall now, I don’t deserve to be caught.” As in the case of Death and Miss Flitworth, an anthropomorphic personification was saved by the self-gift of a human being.

Later Susan said to Death, “The sun would have risen just the same, yes?” “The sun would not have risen,” he said. “A mere ball of flaming gas would have illuminated the world.” It would have been a world of oblivion.

The same human capacity to believe which supports the Tooth Fairy and the Hogfather creates the space for meanings such as justice, mercy and duty, which have no existence in the physical universe, to become. What Hogswatch seems to stand for is not that you will get presents if you have been nice, but that what you have done counts for something, and it is known. It matters. “All things strive...” says Hex. Strange though it may seem, given the general immersion of human and human-like beings in the mere business of staying alive, it is towards this point that all things strive. This very line also appears in [[Tak|Dwarf Lore]]

[[Category:Discworld characters]]
[[Category:Supernatural entities]]
[[de:Schneevater]]

Small Gods

2011-10-16T14:14:06Z

TC01: fixed the book link

'''"Small gods"''' is a term which has a number of meanings, at least in the [[Morporkian]]-speaking [[Discworld (world)|Discworld]]. As with [[the Shades]] of [[Ankh-Morpork]], it's relative. There are uncounted millions of would-be gods, placeholders for gods, seeds of gods who lack the one essential of godhood: belief. In some places (and they're usually desert places - it seems to be a Multiversal convention) they swarm in boiling clouds, pleading and whining for the first believer, just one!

Gods who are comparatively strong and important may still be small compared to the High and Mighty of [[Dunmanifestin]]. This group includes all the known small gods, from [[Herne the Hunted]] to [[Anoia]]: a recent success story. The better known of these share space at the [[Temple of Small Gods]], often called "Small Gods", on the [[Street of Small Gods]].

As they grow in strength proportionately to the available belief, so do they fade if they lose their believers to other [[gods]], natural disasters, religious wars, etc. Many of the once-important gods are so "small", they are only [[Ur-Gilash|whispers in the wind]].

Small gods are investigated in the novel of the same name, {{SG}}, in which the great god [[Om]] is driven down to one believer and nearly obliterated, but emerges a wiser and better tortoise.

[[Category:Discworld concepts]]
[[de:Geringe Götter]]

Commander's Arms

2011-10-16T03:45:03Z

TC01: Created page with "The local pub on the Ramkin estate, owned and operated by Jiminy, a retired copper. It was named '''The Goblin's Head''' because of the head of a goblin hanging..."

The local pub on the [[Crundells|Ramkin estate]], owned and operated by [[Jiminy]], a retired copper. It was named '''The Goblin's Head''' because of the head of a goblin hanging amongst other hunting trophies.

During the course of {{SN}}, [[Sam Vimes]] fights (and easily beats) the blacksmith [[Jethro Jefferson]] here, and visits several times to question Jiminy for information. By the time Vimes is through with the former copper, the goblin head is nowhere to be seen and the pub is now proudly known as '''The Commander's Arms'''.

[[Category:Locations]]

Talk:Blue Lias

2011-10-15T19:16:06Z

TC01:

Probably a reference to [[Lias Bluestone]]. Does the chronology fit, though?

:Given that {{MP}} was written ''before'' {{SM}}, it almost certainly is not a reference. [[User:TC01|TC01]] 21:16, 15 October 2011 (CEST)

Emile

2011-10-15T18:21:20Z

TC01: expanded a bit; there isn't really much else to say about this character, he's a footnote

Emile is a Captain from le Gendarmerie de [[Quirm]], or the Quirmian equivalent of the [[Ankh-Morpork City Watch]].

As part of an exchange program with the Watch (fueled by the high demand for [[Sam Vimes]] trained officers), he was sent to [[Ankh-Morpork]] and [[Haddock|Acting Captain Haddock]] was sent to replace him in Quirm sometime before the beginning of {{SN}}. This worked out fairly well for the Ankh-Morpork Watch, because he ''revolutionised'' the in-house catering for the Watch, delivering palatable canteen food with a large side-serving of ''avec''.

[[Category:Discworld characters]]

Rule One

2011-09-20T00:39:59Z

TC01: just noticed; it's actually "Ribos Operation"... I have a DVD of it ;)

"Do not act incautiously when confronting little bald wrinkly smiling men!" A favorite saying of the [[History Monks|History Monk]] [[Lu-Tze]].

Some of the other rules:
*'''Rule 2''' - "Never refuse a weapon"
*'''Rule 3''' - "Be afraid when you are in possession of a deadly weapon and face an unarmed man in a pose of submission"
*'''Rule 19''' - "Always remember Rule One and ask yourself, why was it created in the first place"

==Annotations==
In the Doctor Who serial ''The Ribos Operation'', The Fourth Doctor (played by Tom Baker) is forced to take a fellow Time Lord, Romana, as an assistant in an assignment. Disgruntled, he insists on ground rules, the first of which is 'Do exactly as I say'. Later in the same episode, challenged by Romana for his antics, he merely says "Remember Rule One!"

There is or used to be a variant of this in football, of which Sir Alex Ferguson could usefully be reminded.

*'''''Rule One''''' The referee is always right.
*'''''Rule Two''''' In the event of the referee ever being wrong, refer to Rule One.

Schoolteachers and mothers are also fond of adapting this variant for their own ends.

[[Category:Discworld concepts]]
[[de:Lu-Tzes Regeln]]

Sonky

2011-03-19T04:31:35Z

TC01: Things vs Devices (this isn't really a "device"...)

Generic name for a contraceptive device named after [[Wallace Sonky]] the inventor of Condoms on the Discworld.

[[Category:Things]]

Deosil Gate

2010-12-08T11:52:46Z

TC01: grammar

The '''Deosil Gate''' is a gate in the city wall of [[Ankh (city)|Ankh]] leading from the [[King's Way]] and its extension, King's Down, and to the road to [[Quirm]]. ''Deosil'' is an old word for "sunwise" or "[[Turnwise|clockwise]]" (see also the annotation to [[Widdershins]].) Unlike the [[Hubwards Gate]], it is almost exactly on its named direction.

The gate collapsed during the events of {{COM}} and was presumably rebuilt later.

[[Category:Streets of Ankh-Morpork]]
[[de:Deosil Tor]]

Talk:Selachii

2010-10-17T19:45:02Z

TC01:

There is a typo on 'from' in the primary section of this: "the family frfom outside. " But I can't edit it :( [[Special:Contributions/86.150.106.186|86.150.106.186]] 21:01, 17 October 2010 (CEST)

:Thanks- typo fixed. [[User:TC01|TC01]] 21:45, 17 October 2010 (CEST)

Pointless albatross

2010-07-19T15:48:50Z

TC01: templating

A pointless albatross is a large sea bird that doesn't think twice about flying for thousands of miles without stop. For just a can of anchovies, and the removal of an uncomfortable thing on the bird's leg, it seems to the bird that it's worth a flight of several thousand miles and, after only a short rest, the same length of flight back home. For this reason, the [[Agatean Empire]] uses pointless albatross as messenger birds (as other people might use pigeons), often as messenger birds to [[Ankh-Morpork]].

The albatross's pointless missions can be found in: {{COM}}, {{IT}}, {{SG}} and {{TLH}}.

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[[de:Sinnlose Albatrosse]]

Red Star

2010-07-14T03:41:06Z

TC01: Decided- it's a location, even if an astronomical one.

While the stars the [[Disc]] passes by are balls of fire a mile across, and while the sun itself is even bigger, the '''Red Star''' is an astronomical object that dwarfs the entire Disc, combined with the [[World Elephant]]s and [[Great A'Tuin]]. In fact, it's much more like the stars of the [[Roundworld]] universe.

Appearing during the events of {{TLF}}, it is apparently the Destination of Great A'Tuin- or at least, the Destination up to the events of ''The Light Fantastic''. As the Disc approaches it, the sky takes on a reddish color, and [[magic]] begins to fail. In fact, should the World Turtle draw too close, or remain there too long, magic would fail entirely and the Disc would be ripped off A'Tuin's back and be destroyed.

When the star first appears, only [[anthropomorphic personification]]s like [[Death]] (and possibly [[The gods|the gods]] and other higher beings) are aware of it. Death, when summoned by the [[Rite of AshkEnte]], is forced to tell the [[wizard]]s of [[Unseen University]] about the threat to the Disc, and also that the [[Octavo]] (and its eight spells) are needed to stop the Disc's destruction. The wizards immediately send out search parties to try and find [[Rincewind]], whose mind is containing the eighth spell and whose body is somewhere in the forest of [[Skund]], but fail because each Order is dedicated to stopping each other Order from claiming Rincewind first.

Eventually, as the star grows bigger and bigger and magic begins to fail, the cult of the [[Star People]] arises. Wizards are killed (as they lack the magic to defend themselves), books are burned, and non-human races (like the [[dwarfs]]) are attacked. A mob attempts to storm Unseen University, whose massive [[octiron]] gates are held together only by the failing magic and lacks any kind of fail-safe- like a big metal bar. The mob demands that the wizards stop messing around and get rid of the star, but this does not happen until after [[Archchancellor]] [[Ymper Trymon]] gets taken over by a beast from the [[Dungeon Dimensions]] and kills the rest of the senior wizards before he is stopped by Rincewind and [[Twoflower]]. After these events, Rincewind (with pronounciation help from [[Bethan]] and Twoflower) reads the eight spells of the Octavo.

This causes eight World Turtle eggs, incubating on the edge of the Red Star, to hatch (revealing baby turtles with young, molten discworlds on their backs), and A'Tuin to turn away and begin the journey away from the Red Star. For then it is revealed that the Red Star serves as a source of heat for the World Turtle eggs to incubate, while the World Turtle parents go elsewhere.

This fact seems to validate the [[Big Bang Hypothesis]]- except, it suggests A'Tuin has ''already'' mated with another World Turtle, raising all sorts of interesting questions. Perhaps this is why the fifth Elephant fell off?

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Crimson Leech

2010-06-30T03:38:44Z

TC01: There's not really anything else to say for this article; removing stub

An [[Ankh-Morpork]] establishment mentioned in {{COM}} and possibly owned by [[Fredor]]. [[Bravd]] and [[Weasel]] mention that they owed Fredor money (eight silver pieces, to be precise) here.

[[Category: Ankh-Morpork Businesses]]
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Big Bang Hypothesis

2010-06-28T15:42:10Z

TC01: favored by religious people; link to Steady gait

The '''Big Bang Hypothesis''' is an astrozoological theory about the nature of [[Great A'Tuin]]. It states that A'Tuin is headed towards the "Time of Mating" and that all other stars are also world turtles traveling with a similar goal. It's more popular among those of a religious persuasion- academics prefer the [[Steady Gait Hypothesis]].

This theory and the need to understand what would happen at this event lead to the famous [[Krull|Krullian]] [[Potent Voyager|expedition]] over the rim to determine the sex of Great A'Tuin.

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Steady Gait Hypothesis

2010-06-28T15:41:53Z

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The '''Steady Gait Hypothesis''' is an astrozoological theory about the nature of [[Great A'Tuin]]. It states that A'Tuin had come from nowhere and would continue at an uniform crawl (a "steady gait", hence the name) into nowhere, for all time. This theory was popular among academics, whereas religious people tended to favor the [[Big Bang Hypothesis]].

A young [[Krull]]ian cosmochelonian of this faction, while testing a new telescope (which he intended to use to study the World Turtle's right eye), was the first to observe the fire of [[Ankh-Morpork]].

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Alfonz

2010-06-21T18:12:23Z

TC01: categores

In [[Pyramids]], [[Alfonz]] is a battered seaman of the crew of the ”Unnamed”, [[Chidder]]’s “definitely not a pirate” merchant ship. Formerly crew on a pirate vessel he now works as servant to [[Chidder]].

He has a criss-cross pattern of scars on his head and ears and his arms are comprehensively tattooed with exotic pornography.
[[Ptraci]] is impressed by the rare Congress of The Friendly Dog and the Two Small Biscuits - “You can even see the yoghurt!”, and a depiction of a physically impossible position from [[130 Days of Pseudopolis]]. After this incident Alfonz vows to never wear short sleeves again.

He carries a roll of carpet into the [[Djelibeybi]] palace, unrolling it across the floor to deliver a slightly dazed [[Ptraci]] at [[Teppic]]’s feet.

The palace Mistress of The Women uses [[Alfonz]] as an instructional aid after discovering that his back contains an illustrated history of exotic practices. Stripped to the waist, lying face down with his fingers in his ears to muffle the giggling from the handmaidens he occasionally winces as she points out items of interest from the illustrations on his hairy torso.

== Annotation ==

Derived from Old German, Alphonse means “ready for battle”.

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Bong Phut

2010-06-06T03:53:01Z

TC01: Created page with 'A town mentioned briefly in {{TOT}}. '''Bong Phut''' is located in the Ramtops, on the way from Enlightenment country to Ankh-Morpork. Lu-Tze and Lobsang Ludd…'

A town mentioned briefly in {{TOT}}. '''Bong Phut''' is located in the [[Ramtops]], on the way from [[Enlightenment country]] to [[Ankh-Morpork]]. [[Lu-Tze]] and [[Lobsang Ludd]] sliced their way through this town on their way to Ankh-Morpork to stop the [[Glass Clock]].

It is close enough to [[Oi Dong]] for the locals to have a sense of [[Rule One]]. In fact, monks passing through on urgent missions might take provisions (while slicing time) and leave a coin behind- indicating that the [[History Monks]] owe their owner a few minutes of time.

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Long Nap

2010-06-06T03:52:54Z

TC01: Created page with 'A town mentioned briefly in {{TOT}}. '''Long Nap''' is located in the Ramtops, on the way from Enlightenment country to Ankh-Morpork. Lu-Tze and Lobsang Ludd …'

A town mentioned briefly in {{TOT}}. '''Long Nap''' is located in the [[Ramtops]], on the way from [[Enlightenment country]] to [[Ankh-Morpork]]. [[Lu-Tze]] and [[Lobsang Ludd]] sliced their way through this town on their way to Ankh-Morpork to stop the [[Glass Clock]].

It is close enough to [[Oi Dong]] for the locals to have a sense of [[Rule One]]. In fact, monks passing through on urgent missions might take provisions (while slicing time) and leave a coin behind- indicating that the [[History Monks]] owe their owner a few minutes of time.

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Essay on a form of wit

2010-05-27T10:48:37Z

TC01: Reverted edits by 78.129.245.14 (Talk) to last revision by Doctor Whiteface

This book is the masterwork of the acclaimed [[Quirm]]ian arch-clown [[Jean-Paul Pune]]. Still on the teaching syllabus of the [[Fools' Guild]] and compulsory reading for all student Fools and Clowns, M. Pune's masterwork dissects the nature of that form of wit and humour which untutored, somewhat rural, people have been using, on a crude and unschooled basis, since the very dawn of language, involving that play on words which is now eponymously known as the Pune after the man who exemplified the type.

Pune devotes 160,000 words on defining the Five Great Classes and seventy-three sub-classes of the Pune or play on words, which all students at the Guild are expected to commit to memory on pain of pain. Pune's stand-up routine made him memorable in all parts of the Disc where he performed, as he was the first man to perfect the art of pronouncing brackets, a valuable tool in dealing with rustic audiences lacking in intellect who would otherwise be too slow to get the point. Observe the following, a joke in fact originated by Pune, for which he was tarred and feathered and left for dead:-

Q:- When is a door not a door?

A:- When it's ajar! (a jar).

Shortly afterwards he travelled to [[Ankh-Morpork]], fuming inside that Quirmians simply did not appreciate his lofty and elevated humour, hoping to find a more responsive audience there...

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Multiverse

2010-05-20T20:46:47Z

TC01: "Multiverse" is already defined, and the concept of such exists in more sci-fi/fantasy works than Michael Moorcock's... so undoing recent revision

A ''universe'' is a small thing by comparison, as it contains only the sum totality of any ''one'' chain of causal events.<br>
A '''''multiverse''''' could perhaps best be described as "Everything", as best understood and described by [[Lobsang Ludd]] and [[Wen the Eternally Surprised|Wen]] in {{TOT}}.

''Everything'' is.... well, everything. Not just the things that we perceive ''are'', from our lowly vantage point, of only being able to see and act in three dimensions of space and what we perceive to be one-way linear [[Trousers of Time|time]]. It contains everything that is, was, will be, and more importantly '''''all''''' the ''mights'' and ''maybes''. Things and events that we might distantly speculate about, or that we wonder ''might'' have happened ''if'' events had played out a bit differently... for instance, [[Mustrum Ridcully]] wonders wistfully what ''might'' have been if he'd married [[Granny Weatherwax|Esmerelda Weatherwax]]. Meanwhile, Granny can't think straight for all the thoughts in her head which, while they're talking in her voice, damn well aren't hers. And all those memories of different lives led by other Esmerelda Weatherwaxes that are leaking in from somewhere...

Which is because somewhere out there, it HAS happened. As [[Roundworld]] seer Robert Anton Wilson phrased it

'''''Everything you can imagine is happening out there somewhere'''''.

Which is the definition of a Multiverse. Even if it isn't happening here, there will be a whole sub-infinity of parallel universes where it is.

If the created Multiverse contains all possibilities and all probabilities become events somewhere, then it also includes the concept that things and people may be able to cross the boundaries between Universes. Under great stress and need, for instance, [[Rincewind]] and [[Twoflower]] are able to pass temporarily to [[Roundworld]], where they manifest aboard an airliner in alternate personalities, as [[Dr Rjinswand]] and [[Jack Zweiblumen]]. The [[Elves]] can cross between universes - not quite at will, but whenever they are called strongly enough. [[Noble dragons]] may cross to our universe when summoned. Time-travelling bag lady Mrs [[Tachyon]] can certainly travel in time - this includes the probability she may also be able to travel in space. Things from the [[Dungeon Dimensions]] may cross from their own phase of the Multiverse whenever opportunity presents itself. The [[Librarian]] uses [[L-Space]] as a means of navigating between the possibilities and probabilities of the Multiverse; [[Hex]] trawls it to bring back [[How to Dynamically Manage People for Dynamic Results in a Caring Empowering Way in Quite a Short Time Dynamically|fragments and echoes of books from other universes]]. Hex also manages the various transitions of the Wizards, between the Disc and the [[Roundworld]] project.

[[Vampires|Vampire]] [[flashsides]] are such a powerful psychic event for the vampire and anyone in his/her vicinity that they are capable of wearing down the usual dividing walls, and bringing two or more realities into the same place at once.

And some concepts or qualities or even [[CMOT Dibbler|people]] are so powerful that they resonate across every phase of the multiverse like a very big bell... but the biggest, loudest, most resonant bell of all which is heard everywhere in the Multiverse is, of course, [[Azrael]].

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Berenice Houser

2010-05-20T03:05:21Z

TC01: "Rubber" Houser is described as a student (specifically called a "boy" in TLC), so I doubt he was married to Berenice

All newspapers maintain a dedicated back numbers and archive department. This is because savvy proprietors have realised there wil always be a market for people wanting to buy back numbers for sentimental reasons - ie, the one published on somebody significant's birthday always sells well, and there are a lot of possible birthdays in a year - and among writers/historians looking to find out what people might have thought was going on, on any particular day in history. So rather than pulp the day's unsold copies, they are directed to a warehouse somewhere for storage and resale. There is also the secondary reason that nostalgia sells papers - all newspapers seem to have an '''''On This Day'''''... feature, where they look back ten or twenty-five or fifty years in history to reprint the day's news, from a date long enough ago to count as either nostalgic or historical.

The person in charge of this department at the [[Ankh-Morpork Times]] is Berenice Houser. She is a divorced but vaguely optimistic woman in her forties with a soft spot for the clergy - one who continues to trust in her Gods when she can no longer trust in Men. It is entirely possible that one day, when the Times has been around long enough to have an '''''On This Day...''''' feature, she will select and edit the material for publication.
While divorced, and while by no means being as blatant about it as a Mrs [[Whitlow]], she wouldn't mind if Mr Right, or Mr I'll Settle For Almost Right, were to come along sometime soon.
She belongs to a [[God of the Month]] club, and this month her thoughts are turning to [[Om]] as the answer to her unspoken prayer. This is due to [[Cribbins|the Omnian priest with the funny teeth]] who is patronising her archive. Although she really ought to be more discerning, as this priest is not all he seems to be...

It is not known if she is related to the University student wizard [["Rubber" Houser]], who invented the [[Graphical Device]].

==Annotation, or at least a note==

Then there are the complete reprints, from dates ''really'' significant in history. Most [[Roundworld]] newspapers, for instance, chose to reprint entire 1930's and 1940's editions in the period 1989-1995, to celebrate 50 years after significant events in the Second World War. Or at least, '''''most''''' British newspapers did this. The then editor of the '''''Daily Mail''''' is reported, on good authority*, to have summoned his analogue of Bernice Houser to the office, upbraided her for her idleness and short-sightedness, and demanded of her the reasons why the Daily Mail was not reprinting copy from the 1930's.

Infuriated by the tirade of insult, she is reported to have found front pages from the 1930's to lay before her editor, which made him go white, then green, then sink to a gibbering heap in the corner of his office invoking his God and the God's eldest son to bear witness. Well, nobody likes to be reminded that the newspaper they edit once had headlines like '''Hooray for Mr Hitler!''', or "'''We believe the Nazi Party represents solid progress for Europe and will create a stable and peaceful continent''', or '''The Daily Mail says - vote Fascist!'''. Not to mention a rather anti-Semitic line the paper took at the time. The Mail took an editorial line that was not only pro-German but pro-Nazi... right up until September 1939, when it had to perfom an about-turn that was almost Stalinist, or otherwise it faced being closed down for supporting the enemy in wartime.

The Mail never printed anything from its archive to show how it unstintingly supported Britain in the run-up to WW2... this is the power a newspaper archivist can wield...

*''Satirical magazine'' '''''Private Eye'''''

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Loremaster

2010-04-22T22:53:44Z

TC01: The last Minor Character from COM!

The hereditary '''Loremaster''' of the [[Wyrmberg]] is responsible for knowing the Lore; the customs and rules of the people of the Wyrmberg.

During the time of {{COM}}, the Loremaster was an old man who was unsettled by the specter of [[Greicha the First]] who still resides at the Wyrmberg, despite being dead. He supervised the battle between [[Hrun]] and the brothers [[Lio!rt]] and [[Liartes]]. Following Hrun's victory, when [[Liessa]] summons her [[Laolith|dragon]] to pursue [[Rincewind]], [[Twoflower]], and Hrun, the dimensional effect of summoning caused the Loremaster to catch the cross-dimensional echoes of a theory being hatched in the mind of an early pyschiatrist in another universe. (The psychiatrist also saw the girl on the dragon for a moment).

He expected Greicha's specter would depart with the victory of Liessa, but as Greicha pointed out, he would have to wait for [[Death]] himself to arrive. Greicha then promised to let the Loremaster know what death was like (after investigating it fully).

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The Book of Staying in The Pit

2010-04-22T19:28:08Z

TC01: I suspect it's meant to be "emphasize"

Mentioned in {{P}}, this is a holy book in [[Djelibeybi]] about the god [[Yay]]
==Annotation==
Other mentioned books are things like "The Book of Going Forth", "The [[Book of Going Forth Around Elevenish]]" (which is attributed to a rather lazy Llamaic sect). These emphasize that the spiritual journey to enlightenment begins in the (metaphorical) morning, even if it ''is'' around elevenish.

In Britain, a demotic metaphor for "bed" is "pit". This book might therefore be to spiritual enlightenment what [[Rincewind]] is to heroism - an anti-text that advocates "sod enlightenment, have a long lie-in", which would be the ultimate extension of the logic of this escalating joke in {{P}}

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Edge witch

2010-04-21T23:26:36Z

TC01: Oops- noticed an unfinished sentence

An '''edge witch''' is a [[Witch]] who deals with the edges- ''any'' edges, where boundary conditions apply. The edge between life and death, light and dark, good and evil, today and tomorrow, this world and the next... and many others. A witch who is described as an "edge witch" watches over and guards these edges. Edge witches learn to think fast, because edges can shift so quickly. It also hones senses that most people never know they have.

Both [[Granny Weatherwax]] and [[Nanny Ogg]] are skilled edge witches. In {{TOT}}, Nanny Ogg is called by [[Wen]] to deliver [[Time]]'s [[Lobsang Ludd|son]] (at different points in her life), and the senses she developed as a result of being an edge witch allow her to quickly understand the situation.

Granny Weatherwax continually demonstrates her skills as an edge witch. One example occurs in {{CJ}}, where she is able to successfully resist the bite of the vampire [[Count de Magpyr]]. It stuns the Count that anyone would have the willpower to resist, but Granny is able to do so, even though it costs her. She later teaches [[Tiffany Aching]] about being an edge witch.

Edge witches tend to look down on witches more concerned with the so-called High Magic (at least, as [[Wizard]]s might define it), such as [[Letice Earwig]]. They instead praise witches who deal with helping people, such as Miss [[Level]].

Some people perform similar roles to that of a witch without calling themselves a witch, and some of these can be edge witches too. An example is [[Sarah Aching]].

[[Pictsies|Nac Mac Feegle]] [[Kelda]] perform similar roles to edge witches, as mentioned by a dying Kelda in {{WFM}}. The Nac Mac Feegle, being less concerned with human right and wrong, have their own edges to take care of.
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Bay of Mante

2010-04-21T02:38:31Z

TC01: Mentioned again in TLH

The location of a famous shipwreck, the '''Bay of Mante''' was located near the [[Rim]] and on the opposite side of the Disc from [[TinLing]].

It is first mentioned in {{M}}, as the site of a famous shipwreck. At least, it would have been a famous shipwreck if [[Death]] could ever find the place.

The second mention occurs in {{TLH}}. The ''[[Maria Pesto]]'' was blown over the [[Rim]] by a terrible storm here, however it ended up orbiting the Disc until crashing on a reef in TinLing. This incident is mentioned as the only precedent for Leonard of Quirm's design of the [[Kite]]. Presumably, this shipwreck is the same as the one mentioned in ''Mort'', but that does depend on whether Death ever ''did'' find the place.

[[Category: Discworld geography]]
[[de:Bucht von Mante]]

Millie Hopgood

2010-04-17T21:19:01Z

TC01: Created page with 'A young Witch from Slice, '''Millie Hopgood''' is mentioned as a possible replacement for the dead witch Desiderata Hollow at a Witches' Sabbat in {{WA}}. She's descr…'

A young [[Witch]] from [[Slice]], '''Millie Hopgood''' is mentioned as a possible replacement for the dead witch [[Desiderata Hollow]] at a Witches' Sabbat in {{WA}}. She's described (by [[Gammer Beavis]]) as hard-working, but with an even worse squint than [[Magrat Garlick]] (the previous suggestion for Desiderata's replacement).

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Magic wand

2010-04-13T21:23:02Z

TC01: Created page with 'A '''magic wand''' is an essential item for those Witches who are Fairy godmothers. It is similar to a Wizard's staff, except it's like a Blackberry to the staff…'

A '''magic wand''' is an essential item for those [[Witches]] who are [[Fairy godmother]]s.

It is similar to a [[Wizard]]'s [[staff]], except it's like a Blackberry to the staff's 3GHz laptop. The wand allows a witch to perform some powerful magic on the spot, if they know how to use it. It's main power involves turning things into other things- for instance, Lily Weatherwax uses hers to turn two snakes into human women, and Magrat uses hers to make a lot of pumpkins.

[[Desiderata Hollow]], a good Witch and Fairy-Godmother, possessed a magic wand. Upon her death in {{WA}}, both [[Granny Weatherwax]] and [[Nanny Ogg]] came to her cottage to try and find it, but in fact she had sent it to [[Magrat Garlick]], with a note that she needed to go to [[Genua]] and stop a [[Ella Saturday|servant girl]] from marrying a [[Duc|prince]]. Magrat first attempts to use the wand in a collapsed [[Dwarf]] mine by ''wishing'' for something to happen. She is able to turn rocks that were covering a valuable vein of gold-bearing quartz into pumpkins. Future attempts prove that the only thing she can do with the wand is turn other things into pumpkins.

She also used it as a blunt object against the two snakes in human form (the ones created by Lily). The blow turned them back into snakes... just in time to meet a small furry animal in the corner of a room that happened to be a mongoose.

[[Lily Weatherwax]], as the bad Fairy-Godmother, also possessed a magic wand, but was far more skilled with it's use. She used it to undo a number of changes made by Magrat that were intended to stop Ella from going to the Ball, as well as to make the two aforesaid snakes into humans.

After the Happy Ending, Granny Weatherwax asks for the wand, and promptly uses it to create flowers. She tells Magrat that the key isn't simply to wish for things to happen, but rather to work out how to make them happen.

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Compendium of Odours

2010-04-12T22:50:05Z

TC01: Created page with 'A twenty-two volume work by Brakefast, the '''Compendium of Odours''' was a book on scent found in the library of Lady Margolotta. When Nutt requested a book on scent, M…'

A twenty-two volume work by Brakefast, the '''Compendium of Odours''' was a book on scent found in the library of [[Lady Margolotta]].

When [[Nutt]] requested a book on scent, Miss [[Healstether]], the librarian, found him this. He made short work of all twenty-two volumes, and soon moved on to Spout's ''Trumpet of Equestrianism'', and then, following a detour into the history section, the folklore section. His progress amazed Miss Healstether, since he could barely read when he arrived.

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