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Guybrush: /* Rock music references */ Fixed formatting

2022-12-23T10:27:44Z

Rock music references: Fixed formatting

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	* In the early scene where Jeremy Clockson has the ability to wake up just before all the alarm clocks go off, just to be sure they're all on time, evokes that moment on side one of Pink Floyd's ''[[wikipedia:The Dark Side of the Moon\|Dark Side of the Moon]]'', where clocks are heard ticking away quietly and then, after this moment of false serenity, all the alarms suddenly go off. Another song about a man being driven crazy by the passage of time is Joe Jackson's "Got No Time (Ticking in my Head!)", which may (intentionally?) be Mondegreened as "Kick him in the head!"		* In the early scene where Jeremy Clockson has the ability to wake up just before all the alarm clocks go off, just to be sure they're all on time, evokes that moment on side one of Pink Floyd's ''[[wikipedia:The Dark Side of the Moon\|Dark Side of the Moon]]'', where clocks are heard ticking away quietly and then, after this moment of false serenity, all the alarms suddenly go off. Another song about a man being driven crazy by the passage of time is Joe Jackson's "Got No Time (Ticking in my Head!)", which may (intentionally?) be Mondegreened as "Kick him in the head!"
	* Lobsang slices time further and deeper than any monk has done before. We are explicitly told that Time slows from blue to a '''''deep purple'''''. Or, indeed, a ''[[wikipedia:Deep Purple\|Deep Purple]]’’, as in the British rock band. ~~Which makes~~ Lobsang~~, er,~~ a "Child In ~~Time". (Is~~ Susan ~~therefore~~ a "Strange Kind of Woman”?)		* Lobsang slices time further and deeper than any monk has done before. We are explicitly told that Time slows from blue to a '''''deep purple'''''. Or, indeed, a ''[[wikipedia:Deep Purple\|Deep Purple]]'', as in the British rock band. Their songs might provide further hints that this is what Pratchett intended - is Lobsang a "Child In Time”, and Susan a "Strange Kind of Woman”?
	* Ronnie's constant reference to being the "Fifth Horseman" is similar to various people's claims to being the “[[wikipedia:Fifth Beatle\|Fifth Beatle]]”. The two most often cited are Stuart Sutcliffe, the original bass player who left the band in 1961, and Pete Best, the original drummer who was fired and replaced by Ringo Starr in 1962.		* Ronnie's constant reference to being the "Fifth Horseman" is similar to various people's claims to being the “[[wikipedia:Fifth Beatle\|Fifth Beatle]]”. The two most often cited are Stuart Sutcliffe, the original bass player who left the band in 1961, and Pete Best, the original drummer who was fired and replaced by Ringo Starr in 1962.
	* ""Pleased to meet you," [[Lu-Tze]] said. "Let me guess your name."" This is likely a reference to the Rolling Stones' "[[wikipedia:Sympathy for the Devil (song)\|Sympathy for the Devil]]".		* ""Pleased to meet you," [[Lu-Tze]] said. "Let me guess your name."" This is likely a reference to the Rolling Stones' "[[wikipedia:Sympathy for the Devil (song)\|Sympathy for the Devil]]".

Guybrush: Little bit of clean up and exposition (I think annotations should be basically understandable without having to refer to another source)

2022-12-23T10:26:34Z

Little bit of clean up and exposition (I think annotations should be basically understandable without having to refer to another source)

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	These are annotations for {{TOT}}. See also [https://www.lspace.org/books/apf/thief-of-time.html the entry for this book] at the [[Annotated Pratchett File]].		These are annotations for {{TOT}}. See also [https://www.lspace.org/books/apf/thief-of-time.html the entry for this book] in the [[Annotated Pratchett File]].

	== General Annotations ==		== General Annotations ==
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	{{TOT}} appears to be a rich mine of rock music references and allusions. Maybe after {{SM}}, Terry couldn't resist the temptation and needed to reprise the theme...		{{TOT}} appears to be a rich mine of rock music references and allusions. Maybe after {{SM}}, Terry couldn't resist the temptation and needed to reprise the theme...

	* In the early scene where Jeremy Clockson has the ability to wake up just before all the alarm clocks go off, just to be sure they're all on time, evokes that moment on side one of Pink Floyd's ''Dark Side of the Moon'', where clocks are heard ticking away quietly and then, after this moment of false serenity, all the alarms suddenly go off. Another song about a man being driven crazy by the passage of time is Joe Jackson's "Got No Time (Ticking in my Head!)", which may (intentionally?) be Mondegreened as "Kick him in the head!"		* In the early scene where Jeremy Clockson has the ability to wake up just before all the alarm clocks go off, just to be sure they're all on time, evokes that moment on side one of Pink Floyd's ''[[wikipedia:The Dark Side of the Moon\|Dark Side of the Moon]]'', where clocks are heard ticking away quietly and then, after this moment of false serenity, all the alarms suddenly go off. Another song about a man being driven crazy by the passage of time is Joe Jackson's "Got No Time (Ticking in my Head!)", which may (intentionally?) be Mondegreened as "Kick him in the head!"
	* Lobsang slices time further and deeper than any monk has done before. We are explicitly told that Time slows from blue to a '''''deep purple'''''. Or, indeed, a ''[[wikipedia:Deep Purple\|Deep Purple]]''. Which makes Lobsang, er, a "Child In Time". (Is Susan therefore a "Strange Kind of ~~Woman"~~?)		* Lobsang slices time further and deeper than any monk has done before. We are explicitly told that Time slows from blue to a '''''deep purple'''''. Or, indeed, a ''[[wikipedia:Deep Purple\|Deep Purple]]’’, as in the British rock band. Which makes Lobsang, er, a "Child In Time". (Is Susan therefore a "Strange Kind of Woman”?)
	* Ronnie's constant reference to being the 'Fifth Horseman' is similar to various people's claims to being the 'Fifth Beatle'.		* Ronnie's constant reference to being the "Fifth Horseman" is similar to various people's claims to being the “[[wikipedia:Fifth Beatle\|Fifth Beatle]]”. The two most often cited are Stuart Sutcliffe, the original bass player who left the band in 1961, and Pete Best, the original drummer who was fired and replaced by Ringo Starr in 1962.
	* ""Pleased to meet you," [[Lu-Tze]] said. "Let me guess your name."" This is likely a reference to the Rolling Stones' "[[wikipedia:Sympathy for the Devil (song)\|Sympathy for the Devil]]".		* ""Pleased to meet you," [[Lu-Tze]] said. "Let me guess your name."" This is likely a reference to the Rolling Stones' "[[wikipedia:Sympathy for the Devil (song)\|Sympathy for the Devil]]".

Guybrush: Updated intro line to include link to our entry about the APF

2022-12-23T03:57:37Z

Updated intro line to include link to our entry about the APF

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	These are annotations for {{TOT}}. See also ~~the~~ [https://www.lspace.org/books/apf/thief-of-time.html ~~Annotated Pratchett File~~ entry for this book].		These are annotations for {{TOT}}. See also [https://www.lspace.org/books/apf/thief-of-time.html the entry for this book] at the [[Annotated Pratchett File]].

	== General Annotations ==		== General Annotations ==

Superluser: I knew I had seen it in another book

2022-12-16T21:21:20Z

I *knew* I had seen it in another book

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	:Is this the reason, deep in our minds?		:Is this the reason, deep in our minds?

	;Harper-Collins paperback p.210:"four hoofprints glowed like plasma in the air above the museum and faded away" is very evocative of the time traveling Delorean from ''Back to the Future''.		;Harper-Collins paperback p.210:"four hoofprints glowed like plasma in the air above the museum and faded away" is very evocative of the time traveling Delorean from ''Back to the Future''. See also the annotation for [https://www.lspace.org/books/apf/soul-music.html Soul Music] P. 54

	;Harper-Collins paperback p.285:"Gray suit, gray shirt, gray shoes, gray cravat, gray everything" - this description of the Auditors is very much like some descriptions of the Men in Black, supposed alien minders who come to hush up witnesses to supposed alien encounters & are not only dressed in black but dressed exclusively in black, to the point of wearing a black suit with a black shirt & a black tie.		;Harper-Collins paperback p.285:"Gray suit, gray shirt, gray shoes, gray cravat, gray everything" - this description of the Auditors is very much like some descriptions of the Men in Black, supposed alien minders who come to hush up witnesses to supposed alien encounters & are not only dressed in black but dressed exclusively in black, to the point of wearing a black suit with a black shirt & a black tie.

Guybrush: Added sections, updated formatting

2022-12-16T05:03:42Z

Added sections, updated formatting

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Superluser at 23:07, 12 December 2022

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	''four hoofprints glowed like plasma in the air above the museum and faded away'' is very evocative of the time traveling Delorean from ''Back to the Future''		''four hoofprints glowed like plasma in the air above the museum and faded away'' is very evocative of the time traveling Delorean from ''Back to the Future''

			*'''Harper-Collins paperback p.285'''

			''Gray suit, gray shirt, gray shoes, gray cravat, gray everything'' The description of the Auditors here is very much like some descriptions of the Men in Black, supposed alien minders who come to hush up witnesses to supposed alien encounters & are not only dressed in black but dressed exclusively in black, to the point of wearing a black suit with a black shirt & a black tie.

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Moishe Rosenbaum: more precise physics language from a physicist :-)

2022-12-11T04:15:22Z

more precise physics language from a physicist :-)

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	well... it exists on Earth and is an alloy of two extremely common metals.		well... it exists on Earth and is an alloy of two extremely common metals.

	Also known as FeNi36, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invar Invar] is an alloy of iron and nickel in the proportion 64:36. It is known as "invar" - ''invariable'' - because its thermal coefficient of ~~heat~~ is incredibly low. That is, it hardly expands if heated, a property unique to these two metals in this exact alloy. This makes it a friend to those who are creating extremely accurate scientific instrumentation to a very, very, exacting tolerance. (Science calls this property an "anomaly" In other words, nobody's got a clue as to why this alloy behaves like this). Jeremy Clockson would be extremely excited by its properties and potential.		Also known as FeNi36, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invar Invar] is an alloy of iron and nickel in the proportion 64:36. It is known as "invar" - ''invariable'' - because its thermal coefficient of linear expansion is incredibly low. That is, it hardly expands if heated, a property unique to these two metals in this exact alloy. This makes it a friend to those who are creating extremely accurate scientific instrumentation to a very, very, exacting tolerance. (Science calls this property an "anomaly" In other words, nobody's got a clue as to why this alloy behaves like this). Jeremy Clockson would be extremely excited by its properties and potential.

Superluser at 00:06, 11 December 2022

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	* The name ''Lobsang Ludd'' may be a reference to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud Lobby Lud], a fictional character once used by a British newspaper which would print a description of the seaside town in which ‘Lobby’ (really a newspaper employee) would next appear, along with a pass phrase, and anyone carrying the newspaper who challenged him with the phrase would receive a cash prize. (Although it's long since the name was widely known, Terry was a newspaper reporter for many years at the start of his career and so might well have known it.)		* The name ''Lobsang Ludd'' may be a reference to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud Lobby Lud], a fictional character once used by a British newspaper which would print a description of the seaside town in which ‘Lobby’ (really a newspaper employee) would next appear, along with a pass phrase, and anyone carrying the newspaper who challenged him with the phrase would receive a cash prize. (Although it's long since the name was widely known, Terry was a newspaper reporter for many years at the start of his career and so might well have known it.)

			*'''Harper-Collins paperback p.210'''

			''four hoofprints glowed like plasma in the air above the museum and faded away'' is very evocative of the time traveling Delorean from ''Back to the Future''

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Gidds: Add reference to Lobby Lud.

2021-08-22T20:00:35Z

Add reference to Lobby Lud.

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	Here's another: Lobsang slices time further and deeper than any monk has done before. We are explicitly told that Time slows from blue to a '''''deep purple'''''. or, indeed, a ''Deep Purple''. Which makes Lobsang, er, a ''Child In Time''. (is Susan therefore a "Strange Kind of Woman"?)		Here's another: Lobsang slices time further and deeper than any monk has done before. We are explicitly told that Time slows from blue to a '''''deep purple'''''. or, indeed, a ''Deep Purple''. Which makes Lobsang, er, a ''Child In Time''. (is Susan therefore a "Strange Kind of Woman"?)

			* The name ''Lobsang Ludd'' may be a reference to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud Lobby Lud], a fictional character once used by a British newspaper which would print a description of the seaside town in which ‘Lobby’ (really a newspaper employee) would next appear, along with a pass phrase, and anyone carrying the newspaper who challenged him with the phrase would receive a cash prize. (Although it's long since the name was widely known, Terry was a newspaper reporter for many years at the start of his career and so might well have known it.)

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SpelCheque: space

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space

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	Death's speech to the other Horsemen:-		Death's speech to the other Horsemen:-
	{{death\|''listen!''do you not feel small in a big universe? that is what they are singing. it is big and you are small and around you there is nothing but the cold of space and you are so very alone}}.		{{death\|''listen!'' do you not feel small in a big universe? that is what they are singing. it is big and you are small and around you there is nothing but the cold of space and you are so very alone}}.

	Death is quoting the lyrics of the song ''Space is Deep'', written by sci-fi author Michael Moorcock (creator of chrononaut Jerry Cornelius) for the spaced-out rock band Hawkwind:-		Death is quoting the lyrics of the song ''Space is Deep'', written by sci-fi author Michael Moorcock (creator of chrononaut Jerry Cornelius) for the spaced-out rock band Hawkwind:-

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	* In the early scene where Jeremy Clockson has the ability to wake up just before all the alarm clocks go off, just to be sure they're all on time, evokes that moment on side one of Pink Floyd's ''[[wikipedia:The Dark Side of the Moon\|Dark Side of the Moon]]'', where clocks are heard ticking away quietly and then, after this moment of false serenity, all the alarms suddenly go off. Another song about a man being driven crazy by the passage of time is Joe Jackson's "Got No Time (Ticking in my Head!)", which may (intentionally?) be Mondegreened as "Kick him in the head!"		* In the early scene where Jeremy Clockson has the ability to wake up just before all the alarm clocks go off, just to be sure they're all on time, evokes that moment on side one of Pink Floyd's ''[[wikipedia:The Dark Side of the Moon\|Dark Side of the Moon]]'', where clocks are heard ticking away quietly and then, after this moment of false serenity, all the alarms suddenly go off. Another song about a man being driven crazy by the passage of time is Joe Jackson's "Got No Time (Ticking in my Head!)", which may (intentionally?) be Mondegreened as "Kick him in the head!"
	* Lobsang slices time further and deeper than any monk has done before. We are explicitly told that Time slows from blue to a '''''deep purple'''''. Or, indeed, a ''[[wikipedia:Deep Purple\|Deep Purple]]’’, as in the British rock band. ~~Which makes~~ Lobsang~~, er,~~ a "Child In ~~Time". (Is~~ Susan ~~therefore~~ a "Strange Kind of Woman”?)		* Lobsang slices time further and deeper than any monk has done before. We are explicitly told that Time slows from blue to a '''''deep purple'''''. Or, indeed, a ''[[wikipedia:Deep Purple\|Deep Purple]]'', as in the British rock band. Their songs might provide further hints that this is what Pratchett intended - is Lobsang a "Child In Time”, and Susan a "Strange Kind of Woman”?
	* Ronnie's constant reference to being the "Fifth Horseman" is similar to various people's claims to being the “[[wikipedia:Fifth Beatle\|Fifth Beatle]]”. The two most often cited are Stuart Sutcliffe, the original bass player who left the band in 1961, and Pete Best, the original drummer who was fired and replaced by Ringo Starr in 1962.		* Ronnie's constant reference to being the "Fifth Horseman" is similar to various people's claims to being the “[[wikipedia:Fifth Beatle\|Fifth Beatle]]”. The two most often cited are Stuart Sutcliffe, the original bass player who left the band in 1961, and Pete Best, the original drummer who was fired and replaced by Ringo Starr in 1962.
	* ""Pleased to meet you," [[Lu-Tze]] said. "Let me guess your name."" This is likely a reference to the Rolling Stones' "[[wikipedia:Sympathy for the Devil (song)\|Sympathy for the Devil]]".		* ""Pleased to meet you," [[Lu-Tze]] said. "Let me guess your name."" This is likely a reference to the Rolling Stones' "[[wikipedia:Sympathy for the Devil (song)\|Sympathy for the Devil]]".