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	The region's depiction on {{DM}} causes some controversy, since it appears too small to contain the variety of deep jungles and wide-open spaces described in the text. It may be that the Mapp, like early [[Roundworld]] maps, suffers from a lack of contact with and actual measurement of remote regions. (See: [[Talk:Book:The Discworld Mapp]])		The region's depiction on {{DM}} causes some controversy, since it appears too small to contain the variety of deep jungles and wide-open spaces described in the text. It may be that the Mapp, like early [[Roundworld]] maps, suffers from a lack of contact with and actual measurement of remote regions. (See: [[Talk:Book:The Discworld Mapp]])

	Some at least of these issues have been resolved with the release of {{CDA}} which has clear maps delineating not so much ''countries'' as ''spheres of influence''. (It is stressed that these are ''regions'' rather than nation-states in the Central Continent understanding of the word.) But the {{CDA}} extends Howondaland across into regions not hitherto thought of as part of that continent, across the Howondaland Sea and as far widdershins as the borders of [[Vanglemesht]], [[H'~~Rull~~]] and [[Khan'Li\|Khanli]]. The [[Sumtri]] archipelago is also treated as a part of Howondaland despite being even further to widdershins.		Some at least of these issues have been resolved with the release of {{CDA}} which has clear maps delineating not so much ''countries'' as ''spheres of influence''. (It is stressed that these are ''regions'' rather than nation-states in the Central Continent understanding of the word.) But the {{CDA}} extends Howondaland across into regions not hitherto thought of as part of that continent, across the Howondaland Sea and as far widdershins as the borders of [[Vanglemesht]], [[H'rull]] and [[Khan'Li\|Khanli]]. The [[Sumtri]] archipelago is also treated as a part of Howondaland despite being even further to widdershins.

	==People and History==		==People and History==

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	The region's depiction on {{DM}} causes some controversy, since it appears too small to contain the variety of deep jungles and wide-open spaces described in the text. It may be that the Mapp, like early [[Roundworld]] maps, suffers from a lack of contact with and actual measurement of remote regions. (See: [[Talk:Book:The Discworld Mapp]])		The region's depiction on {{DM}} causes some controversy, since it appears too small to contain the variety of deep jungles and wide-open spaces described in the text. It may be that the Mapp, like early [[Roundworld]] maps, suffers from a lack of contact with and actual measurement of remote regions. (See: [[Talk:Book:The Discworld Mapp]])

	Some at least of these issues have been resolved with the release of {{CDA}} which has clear maps ~~delinating~~ not so much ''countries'' as ''spheres of influence''. (It is stressed that these are ''regions'' rather than nation-~~statres~~ in the Central Continent understanding of the word.) But the {{CDA}} extends Howondaland across into regions not hitherto thought of as part of that continent, across the Howondaland Sea and as far widdershins as the borders of [[Vanglemesht]], [[H'Rull]] and [[Khan'Li\|Khanli]]. The [[Sumtri]] ~~archipelego~~ is also treated as a part of Howondaland despite being even further to ~~the widdershins. nothing is mentioned about red-skinned peoples analagous to roundworld's Native Americans - unless these are to be found further to the~~ widdershins ~~in the [[Great Outdoors]], and [[One-Man-Bucket]] was suffering from post-mortem confusion when he identified his ancestral home as Howondaland~~.		Some at least of these issues have been resolved with the release of {{CDA}} which has clear maps delineating not so much ''countries'' as ''spheres of influence''. (It is stressed that these are ''regions'' rather than nation-states in the Central Continent understanding of the word.) But the {{CDA}} extends Howondaland across into regions not hitherto thought of as part of that continent, across the Howondaland Sea and as far widdershins as the borders of [[Vanglemesht]], [[H'Rull]] and [[Khan'Li\|Khanli]]. The [[Sumtri]] archipelago is also treated as a part of Howondaland despite being even further to widdershins.

	==People and History==		==People and History==
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	In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the Jolson family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent.		In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the Jolson family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent.

	It is also, by his own account, the ancestral home of the spirit guide [[One-Man-Bucket]], who bemoans not having been born in its wide-open plains, as is his perceived birthright. In the absence of any specific North ~~America~~ on the Disc, ( the [[Great Outdoors]] notwithstanding) its Red Indian-like people had to go ''somewhere''~~...~~ although it is possible Bucket, a man born as an ethnic minority in [[Ankh-Morpork]], may have been ~~copnfused~~ as to his people's origins.		It is also, by his own account, the ancestral home of the spirit guide [[One-Man-Bucket]], who bemoans not having been born in its wide-open plains, as is his perceived birthright. In the absence of any specific North American analog on the Disc, (the [[Great Outdoors]] notwithstanding) its Red Indian-like people had to go ''somewhere'', although it is possible Bucket, a man born into an ethnic minority in [[Ankh-Morpork]], may have been confused as to his people's origins.

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==
	''Semper Aliquid Nova''...		''Semper Aliquid Nova''...
	In {{SN}}, Howondaland is used as a location for [[Gravid Rust]]'s slave-plantations, where captive [[goblins]] are worked to death on tobacco farms. In Roundworld's Africa, tobacco is a cash crop in most African countries south of the sub-Sahara, most notably in Togo, Senegal, Zambia, Zimbabwe and Mozambique. The exact location of the slave-plantations is not given, but analogy to Africa would place them in the jungle belt of central Howondaland, near the coast and ideally a port for export. Zambingo? At least three years prior to the events in {{SN}} [[Gravid Rust]] established a tobacco plantation in Howondaland. For a workforce he had [[Goblins\|goblins]] forcibly taken from [[The Shires]] and shipped there to use as slave labour until they were worked to death. He also used the plantation to make a number of troll drugs such as the deadly [[Crystal Slam]] and others including Slab, Slice, Slap, and Slunkie. He then had them smuggled into Ankh-Morpork for sale along with the tobacco. This whole vile operation lasted until the Watch found out about it and retribution arrived in the form of constable [[Wee Mad Arthur]].		In {{SN}}, Howondaland is used as a location for [[Gravid Rust]]'s slave-plantations, where captive [[goblins]] are worked to death on tobacco farms. In Roundworld's Africa, tobacco is a cash crop in most African countries south of the sub-Sahara, most notably in Togo, Senegal, Zambia, Zimbabwe and Mozambique. The exact location of the slave-plantations is not given, but analogy to Africa would place them in the jungle belt of central Howondaland, near the coast and ideally a port for export: Zambingo? At least three years prior to the events in {{SN}} [[Gravid Rust]] established a tobacco plantation in Howondaland. For a workforce he had [[Goblins\|goblins]] forcibly taken from [[The Shires]] and shipped there to use as slave labour until they were worked to death. He also used the plantation to make a number of troll drugs such as the deadly [[Crystal Slam]] and others including Slab, Slice, Slap, and Slunkie. He then had them smuggled into Ankh-Morpork for sale along with the tobacco. This whole vile operation lasted until the Watch found out about it and retribution arrived in the form of constable [[Wee Mad Arthur]].

	Howondaland has a brief appearance as the location of the [[Tear of Offler\|Lost Jewelled Temple]] of [[Offler]], in {{RM}}. It is the scene of several adventures in the delivery of the thousand elephants mentioned above in {{MP}}. The Lost Temple of Offler is referenced in {{CDA}} and is likely to be somewhere in the [[S'belinde]] region.		Howondaland has a brief appearance as the location of the [[Tear of Offler\|Lost Jewelled Temple]] of [[Offler]], in {{RM}}. It is the scene of several adventures in the delivery of the thousand elephants mentioned above in {{MP}}. The Lost Temple of Offler is referenced in {{CDA}} and is likely to be somewhere in the [[S'belinde]] region.

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People and History: tidying text

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	More speculatively, Howondaland may well be the location for the famous battle of [[35th Llamedosian Foot\|Lawkes' Drain]] as described in the booklet accompanying the Discworld Mapp. it is apparently the case that at this battle, a trooper raised the alarm with the immortal cry ''Howondalanders, sir! Quite a lot of 'em!''. It may also, by inference, be the home of [[Assassins' Guild]] School teacher, Miss [[Smith-Rhodes]]. Another odd pointer to the existence of a white people in Howondaland is, indirectly, given in Discworld animal names such as ''Bewildebeeste''. Who named it and gave it and "[[Acrobatic Meerkat\|Acrobatic Meerkat]]s" distinctly Afrikaans-sounding names?		More speculatively, Howondaland may well be the location for the famous battle of [[35th Llamedosian Foot\|Lawkes' Drain]] as described in the booklet accompanying the Discworld Mapp. it is apparently the case that at this battle, a trooper raised the alarm with the immortal cry ''Howondalanders, sir! Quite a lot of 'em!''. It may also, by inference, be the home of [[Assassins' Guild]] School teacher, Miss [[Smith-Rhodes]]. Another odd pointer to the existence of a white people in Howondaland is, indirectly, given in Discworld animal names such as ''Bewildebeeste''. Who named it and gave it and "[[Acrobatic Meerkat\|Acrobatic Meerkat]]s" distinctly Afrikaans-sounding names?

	Interestingly, the Howondalandian region of [[S'belinde]] has a principal coastal settlement called ''Smithville'', and [[Howondaland Smith]] hunted his Balgrogs here. Does this act as another pointer to not only White Howondaland, but also to the country of origin of Miss Smith-Rhodes?		Interestingly, the Howondalandian region of [[S'belinde]] has a principal coastal settlement called ''Smithville'', and [[Howondaland Smith]] hunted his Balgrogs here (thus contributing to making them a terminally endangered species). Does this act as another pointer to not only White Howondaland, but also to the country of origin of Miss Smith-Rhodes?

	In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the Jolson family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent~~. The famed adventurer [[Howondaland Smith]] hunted his [[balgrog\|Balgrogs]] in [[S'belinde]], contributing to making them a terminally endangered species~~.		In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the Jolson family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent.

	It is also, by his own account, the ancestral home of the spirit guide [[One-Man-Bucket]], who bemoans not having been born in its wide-open plains, as is his perceived birthright. In the absence of any specific North America on the Disc, ( the [[Great Outdoors]] notwithstanding) its Red Indian-like people had to go ''somewhere''... although it is possible Bucket, a man born as an ethnic minority in [[Ankh-Morpork]], may have been copnfused as to his people's origins.		It is also, by his own account, the ancestral home of the spirit guide [[One-Man-Bucket]], who bemoans not having been born in its wide-open plains, as is his perceived birthright. In the absence of any specific North America on the Disc, ( the [[Great Outdoors]] notwithstanding) its Red Indian-like people had to go ''somewhere''... although it is possible Bucket, a man born as an ethnic minority in [[Ankh-Morpork]], may have been copnfused as to his people's origins.

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	==Appearances==		==Appearances==
	''Semper Aliquid Nova''...		''Semper Aliquid Nova''...
	In {{SN}}, Howondaland is used as a location for [[Gravid Rust]]'s slave-plantations, where captive [[goblins]] are worked to death on tobacco farms. In Roundworld's Africa, tobacco is a cash crop in most African countries south of the sub-Sahara, most notably in Togo, Senegal, Zambia, Zimbabwe and Mozambique. The exact location of the slave-plantations is not given, but analogy to Africa would place them in the jungle belt of central Howondaland, near the coast and ideally a port for export. Zambingo?		In {{SN}}, Howondaland is used as a location for [[Gravid Rust]]'s slave-plantations, where captive [[goblins]] are worked to death on tobacco farms. In Roundworld's Africa, tobacco is a cash crop in most African countries south of the sub-Sahara, most notably in Togo, Senegal, Zambia, Zimbabwe and Mozambique. The exact location of the slave-plantations is not given, but analogy to Africa would place them in the jungle belt of central Howondaland, near the coast and ideally a port for export. Zambingo? At least three years prior to the events in {{SN}} [[Gravid Rust]] established a tobacco plantation in Howondaland. For a workforce he had [[Goblins\|goblins]] forcibly taken from [[The Shires]] and shipped there to use as slave labour until they were worked to death. He also used the plantation to make a number of troll drugs such as the deadly [[Crystal Slam]] and others including Slab, Slice, Slap, and Slunkie. He then had them smuggled into Ankh-Morpork for sale along with the tobacco. This whole vile operation lasted until the Watch found out about it and retribution arrived in the form of constable [[Wee Mad Arthur]].

	At least three years prior to the events in {{SN}} [[Gravid Rust]] established a tobacco plantation in Howondaland. For a workforce he had [[Goblins\|goblins]] forcibly taken from [[The Shires]] and shipped there to use as slave labour until they were worked to death.		Howondaland has a brief appearance as the location of the [[Tear of Offler\|Lost Jewelled Temple]] of [[Offler]], in {{RM}}. It is the scene of several adventures in the delivery of the thousand elephants mentioned above in {{MP}}. The Lost Temple of Offler is referenced in {{CDA}} and is likely to be somewhere in the [[S'belinde]] region.

	He also used the plantation to make a number of troll drugs such as the deadly [[Crystal Slam]] and others including Slab, Slice, Slap, and Slunkie. He then had them smuggled into Ankh-Morpork for sale along with the tobacco. This whole vile operation lasted until the Watch found out about it and retribution arrived in the form of constable [[Wee Mad Arthur]].

	Howondaland has a brief appearance as the location of the [[Tear of Offler\|Lost Jewelled Temple]] of [[Offler]], in {{RM}}. It is the scene of several adventures in the delivery of the thousand elephants mentioned above in {{MP}}.

	==Notable Howandalandians and emigrants==		==Notable Howandalandians and emigrants==

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Geography: fixing link, note two nations need articles

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	The region's depiction on {{DM}} causes some controversy, since it appears too small to contain the variety of deep jungles and wide-open spaces described in the text. It may be that the Mapp, like early [[Roundworld]] maps, suffers from a lack of contact with and actual measurement of remote regions. (See: [[Talk:Book:The Discworld Mapp]])		The region's depiction on {{DM}} causes some controversy, since it appears too small to contain the variety of deep jungles and wide-open spaces described in the text. It may be that the Mapp, like early [[Roundworld]] maps, suffers from a lack of contact with and actual measurement of remote regions. (See: [[Talk:Book:The Discworld Mapp]])

	Some at least of these issues have been resolved with the release of {{CDA}} which has clear maps delinating not so much ''countries'' as ''spheres of influence''. (It is stressed that these are ''regions'' rather than nation-statres in the Central Continent understanding of the word.) But the {{CDA}} extends Howondaland across into regions not hitherto thought of as part of that continent, across the Howondaland Sea and as far widdershins as the borders of [[Vanglemesht]], [[H'Rull]] and [[Khanli]]. The [[Sumtri]] archipelego is also treated as a part of Howondaland despite being even further to the widdershins. nothing is mentioned about red-skinned peoples analagous to roundworld's Native Americans - unless these are to be found further to the widdershins in the [[Great Outdoors]], and [[One-Man-Bucket]] was suffering from post-mortem confusion when he identified his ancestral home as Howondaland.		Some at least of these issues have been resolved with the release of {{CDA}} which has clear maps delinating not so much ''countries'' as ''spheres of influence''. (It is stressed that these are ''regions'' rather than nation-statres in the Central Continent understanding of the word.) But the {{CDA}} extends Howondaland across into regions not hitherto thought of as part of that continent, across the Howondaland Sea and as far widdershins as the borders of [[Vanglemesht]], [[H'Rull]] and [[Khan'Li\|Khanli]]. The [[Sumtri]] archipelego is also treated as a part of Howondaland despite being even further to the widdershins. nothing is mentioned about red-skinned peoples analagous to roundworld's Native Americans - unless these are to be found further to the widdershins in the [[Great Outdoors]], and [[One-Man-Bucket]] was suffering from post-mortem confusion when he identified his ancestral home as Howondaland.

	==People and History==		==People and History==

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People and History

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	In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the Jolson family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent. The famed adventurer [[Howondaland Smith]] hunted his [[balgrog\|Balgrogs]] in [[S'belinde]], contributing to making them a terminally endangered species.		In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the Jolson family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent. The famed adventurer [[Howondaland Smith]] hunted his [[balgrog\|Balgrogs]] in [[S'belinde]], contributing to making them a terminally endangered species.

			It is also, by his own account, the ancestral home of the spirit guide [[One-Man-Bucket]], who bemoans not having been born in its wide-open plains, as is his perceived birthright. In the absence of any specific North America on the Disc, ( the [[Great Outdoors]] notwithstanding) its Red Indian-like people had to go ''somewhere''... although it is possible Bucket, a man born as an ethnic minority in [[Ankh-Morpork]], may have been copnfused as to his people's origins.
	It is also, by his own account, the ancestral home of the spirit guide [[One-Man-Bucket]], who bemoans not having been born in its wide-open plains, as is his perceived birthright. In the absence of any specific North America on the ~~disc~~, its Red Indian-like people had to go ''somewhere''...

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

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Geography: Expanding fron the CDA.

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	==Geography==		==Geography==
	'''Howondaland''' is often mentioned as an example of dark and mysterious jungle in the continent of [[Klatch (continent)\|Klatch]]. We know plains or veldts exist: the elephant-wranglers of {{MP}} demonstrate as much when rounding up those one thousand elephants [[Dibbler]] has ordered, in a moment of big-screen madness.		'''Howondaland''' is often mentioned as an example of dark and mysterious jungle in the continent of [[Klatch (continent)\|Klatch]]. We know plains or veldts exist: the elephant-wranglers of {{MP}} demonstrate as much when rounding up those one thousand elephants [[Dibbler]] has ordered, in a moment of big-screen madness. There is at least one major city and port, [[Zambingo]] and it is known there is one black kingdom there, ruled by a King [[Samuel]].
			The region's depiction on {{DM}} causes some controversy, since it appears too small to contain the variety of deep jungles and wide-open spaces described in the text. It may be that the Mapp, like early [[Roundworld]] maps, suffers from a lack of contact with and actual measurement of remote regions. (See: [[Talk:Book:The Discworld Mapp]])

	~~There is~~ at least ~~one major city~~ and ~~port~~, [[~~Zambingo~~]] and ~~it is known there is one black kingdom there, ruled by a King~~ [[~~Samuel~~]].		Some at least of these issues have been resolved with the release of {{CDA}} which has clear maps delinating not so much ''countries'' as ''spheres of influence''. (It is stressed that these are ''regions'' rather than nation-statres in the Central Continent understanding of the word.) But the {{CDA}} extends Howondaland across into regions not hitherto thought of as part of that continent, across the Howondaland Sea and as far widdershins as the borders of [[Vanglemesht]], [[H'Rull]] and [[Khanli]]. The [[Sumtri]] archipelego is also treated as a part of Howondaland despite being even further to the widdershins. nothing is mentioned about red-skinned peoples analagous to roundworld's Native Americans - unless these are to be found further to the widdershins in the [[Great Outdoors]], and [[One-Man-Bucket]] was suffering from post-mortem confusion when he identified his ancestral home as Howondaland.

	The ~~region~~'s ~~depiction on {{DM}} causes some controversy, since it appears too small~~ to ~~contain~~ the ~~variety of deep jungles and wide-open spaces described~~ in the ~~text. It may be that the Mapp, like early~~ [[~~Roundworld~~]] ~~maps~~, ~~suffers from a lack of contact with~~ and ~~actual measurement of remote regions. (See:~~ [[~~Talk:Book:The Discworld Mapp~~]])

	==People and History==		==People and History==

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People and History: another pointer to a Discworld "South Africa".

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	More speculatively, Howondaland may well be the location for the famous battle of [[35th Llamedosian Foot\|Lawkes' Drain]] as described in the booklet accompanying the Discworld Mapp. it is apparently the case that at this battle, a trooper raised the alarm with the immortal cry ''Howondalanders, sir! Quite a lot of 'em!''. It may also, by inference, be the home of [[Assassins' Guild]] School teacher, Miss [[Smith-Rhodes]]. Another odd pointer to the existence of a white people in Howondaland is, indirectly, given in Discworld animal names such as ''Bewildebeeste''. Who named it and gave it and "[[Acrobatic Meerkat\|Acrobatic Meerkat]]s" distinctly Afrikaans-sounding names?		More speculatively, Howondaland may well be the location for the famous battle of [[35th Llamedosian Foot\|Lawkes' Drain]] as described in the booklet accompanying the Discworld Mapp. it is apparently the case that at this battle, a trooper raised the alarm with the immortal cry ''Howondalanders, sir! Quite a lot of 'em!''. It may also, by inference, be the home of [[Assassins' Guild]] School teacher, Miss [[Smith-Rhodes]]. Another odd pointer to the existence of a white people in Howondaland is, indirectly, given in Discworld animal names such as ''Bewildebeeste''. Who named it and gave it and "[[Acrobatic Meerkat\|Acrobatic Meerkat]]s" distinctly Afrikaans-sounding names?

			Interestingly, the Howondalandian region of [[S'belinde]] has a principal coastal settlement called ''Smithville'', and [[Howondaland Smith]] hunted his Balgrogs here. Does this act as another pointer to not only White Howondaland, but also to the country of origin of Miss Smith-Rhodes?

	In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the Jolson family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent. The famed adventurer [[Howondaland Smith]] hunted his [[balgrog\|Balgrogs]] in [[S'belinde]], contributing to making them a terminally endangered species.		In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the Jolson family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent. The famed adventurer [[Howondaland Smith]] hunted his [[balgrog\|Balgrogs]] in [[S'belinde]], contributing to making them a terminally endangered species.

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Notable Howandalandians and emigrants: adding the balgrog hunter

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	*[[All Jolson]] (and [[Precious Jolson\|daughter Precious]])		*[[All Jolson]] (and [[Precious Jolson\|daughter Precious]])
	*[[One-Man-Bucket]]		*[[One-Man-Bucket]]
			*[[Howondaland Smith]]


	==Annotation==		==Annotation==

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	More speculatively, Howondaland may well be the location for the famous battle of [[35th Llamedosian Foot\|Lawkes' Drain]] as described in the booklet accompanying the Discworld Mapp. it is apparently the case that at this battle, a trooper raised the alarm with the immortal cry ''Howondalanders, sir! Quite a lot of 'em!''. It may also, by inference, be the home of [[Assassins' Guild]] School teacher, Miss [[Smith-Rhodes]]. Another odd pointer to the existence of a white people in Howondaland is, indirectly, given in Discworld animal names such as ''Bewildebeeste''. Who named it and gave it and "[[Acrobatic Meerkat\|Acrobatic Meerkat]]s" distinctly Afrikaans-sounding names?		More speculatively, Howondaland may well be the location for the famous battle of [[35th Llamedosian Foot\|Lawkes' Drain]] as described in the booklet accompanying the Discworld Mapp. it is apparently the case that at this battle, a trooper raised the alarm with the immortal cry ''Howondalanders, sir! Quite a lot of 'em!''. It may also, by inference, be the home of [[Assassins' Guild]] School teacher, Miss [[Smith-Rhodes]]. Another odd pointer to the existence of a white people in Howondaland is, indirectly, given in Discworld animal names such as ''Bewildebeeste''. Who named it and gave it and "[[Acrobatic Meerkat\|Acrobatic Meerkat]]s" distinctly Afrikaans-sounding names?

	In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the ~~jolson~~ family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent.		In {{SN}}, we learn it is the origin-point of the Jolson family: both father [[All Jolson]] and daughter [[Precious Jolson]] originally came from somewhere on the continent. The famed adventurer [[Howondaland Smith]] hunted his [[balgrog\|Balgrogs]] in [[S'belinde]], contributing to making them a terminally endangered species.


	It is also, by his own account, the ancestral home of the spirit guide [[One-Man-Bucket]], who bemoans not having been born in its wide-open plains, as is his perceived birthright. In the absence of any specific North America on the disc, its Red Indian-like people had to go ''somewhere''...		It is also, by his own account, the ancestral home of the spirit guide [[One-Man-Bucket]], who bemoans not having been born in its wide-open plains, as is his perceived birthright. In the absence of any specific North America on the disc, its Red Indian-like people had to go ''somewhere''...