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	{{spoilersfor\|''[[Book:The Fifth Elephant\|The Fifth Elephant]]''}}		{{spoilersfor\|''[[Book:The Fifth Elephant\|The Fifth Elephant]]''}}

	The '''Scone of Stone''' is the most famous form of [[Dwarf Bread\|dwarf bread]]. It has seated the [[Low King\|Low Kings]] of the [[Dwarfs]] since it was first created to seat [[B'hrian Bloodaxe]], some fifteen hundred years ago. The Low King cannot be Low King without this artifact. Tragedy came however when the scone was apparently stolen from its keeping place. The belief is that the truth was once something solid, like a mineral, and the last piece of it was hidden by [[Agi Hammerthief]] and baked into the Scone. Because the Scone contains a grain of truth it is said to burn red-hot if a lie is told in it's presence, a fact ~~than~~ came in useful when [[Rhys Rhysson\| Low King Rhys]] wished to interrogate [[Dee]].		The '''Scone of Stone''' is the most famous form of [[Dwarf Bread\|dwarf bread]]. It has seated the [[Low King\|Low Kings]] of the [[Dwarfs]] since it was first created to seat [[B'hrian Bloodaxe]], some fifteen hundred years ago. The Low King cannot be Low King without this artifact. Tragedy came however when the scone was apparently stolen from its keeping place. The belief is that the truth was once something solid, like a mineral, and the last piece of it was hidden by [[Agi Hammerthief]] and baked into the Scone. Because the Scone contains a grain of truth it is said to burn red-hot if a lie is told in it's presence, a fact that came in useful when [[Rhys Rhysson\| Low King Rhys]] wished to interrogate [[Dee]].

	The stone is also referred to as "the thing and the whole of the thing."		The stone is also referred to as "the thing and the whole of the thing."

Old Dickens: probably time someone fixed that...

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probably time someone fixed that...

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	The '''Scone of Stone''' is the most famous form of [[Dwarf Bread\|dwarf bread]]. It has seated the [[Low King\|Low Kings]] of the [[Dwarfs]] since it was first created to seat [[B'hrian Bloodaxe]], some fifteen hundred years ago. The Low King cannot be Low King without this artifact. Tragedy came however when the scone was apparently stolen from its keeping place. The belief is that the truth was once something solid, like a mineral, and the last piece of it was hidden by [[Agi Hammerthief]] and baked into the Scone. Because the Scone contains a grain of truth it is said to burn red-hot if a lie is told in it's presence, a fact than came in useful when [[Rhys Rhysson\| Low King Rhys]] wished to interrogate [[Dee]].		The '''Scone of Stone''' is the most famous form of [[Dwarf Bread\|dwarf bread]]. It has seated the [[Low King\|Low Kings]] of the [[Dwarfs]] since it was first created to seat [[B'hrian Bloodaxe]], some fifteen hundred years ago. The Low King cannot be Low King without this artifact. Tragedy came however when the scone was apparently stolen from its keeping place. The belief is that the truth was once something solid, like a mineral, and the last piece of it was hidden by [[Agi Hammerthief]] and baked into the Scone. Because the Scone contains a grain of truth it is said to burn red-hot if a lie is told in it's presence, a fact than came in useful when [[Rhys Rhysson\| Low King Rhys]] wished to interrogate [[Dee]].

	The stone is also referred to as "the thing, the whole ~~thing, and nothing but~~ the thing."		The stone is also referred to as "the thing and the whole of the thing."

	A copy of the stone is kept at the Museum of dwarf bread in [[Ankh-Morpork]].		A copy of the stone is kept at the Museum of dwarf bread in [[Ankh-Morpork]].

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Annotations: rm incorrect quotation per talk from several years ago

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	In Irish mythology, the ''lias fail'' ('''stone of destiny''') is the traditional throne of the High King or Queen of All Ireland, and has a voice - it will scream or sing when the true High Monarch sits upon it. Later mythology is confused, but there is a hint that this was stolen by raiding Scots, who in turn had it stolen from them by the raiding English...		In Irish mythology, the ''lias fail'' ('''stone of destiny''') is the traditional throne of the High King or Queen of All Ireland, and has a voice - it will scream or sing when the true High Monarch sits upon it. Later mythology is confused, but there is a hint that this was stolen by raiding Scots, who in turn had it stolen from them by the raiding English...

	"The thing, the whole ~~thing, and nothing but~~ the thing" ~~mirrors the swearing in of witnesses in court trials, when they are enjoined to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." It~~ may also be an allusion to Kantian philosophy's ''ding an sich' -- the "true" thing in and of itself, which is ultimately unknowable.		"The thing, and the whole of the thing" may also be an allusion to Kantian philosophy's ''ding an sich' -- the "true" thing in and of itself, which is ultimately unknowable.

	The Low King's use of the Scone like a lie detector to make Dee confess is very similar to how King Arthur used Excalibur to identify a traitor in the ''Camelot 3000'' comic series. Yes, including the way the King knew, but did not mention, something about the detection-method's efficacy.		The Low King's use of the Scone like a lie detector to make Dee confess is very similar to how King Arthur used Excalibur to identify a traitor in the ''Camelot 3000'' comic series. Yes, including the way the King knew, but did not mention, something about the detection-method's efficacy.

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	In Irish mythology, the ''lias fail'' ('''stone of destiny''') is the traditional throne of the High King or Queen of All Ireland, and has a voice - it will scream or sing when the true High Monarch sits upon it. Later mythology is confused, but there is a hint that this was stolen by raiding Scots, who in turn had it stolen from them by the raiding English...		In Irish mythology, the ''lias fail'' ('''stone of destiny''') is the traditional throne of the High King or Queen of All Ireland, and has a voice - it will scream or sing when the true High Monarch sits upon it. Later mythology is confused, but there is a hint that this was stolen by raiding Scots, who in turn had it stolen from them by the raiding English...

	"The thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing" mirrors the swearing in of witnesses in court trials, when they are enjoined to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."		"The thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing" mirrors the swearing in of witnesses in court trials, when they are enjoined to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." It may also be an allusion to Kantian philosophy's ''ding an sich' -- the "true" thing in and of itself, which is ultimately unknowable.

	The Low King's use of the Scone like a lie detector to make Dee confess is very similar to how King Arthur used Excalibur to identify a traitor in the ''Camelot 3000'' comic series. Yes, including the way the King knew, but did not mention, something about the detection-method's efficacy.		The Low King's use of the Scone like a lie detector to make Dee confess is very similar to how King Arthur used Excalibur to identify a traitor in the ''Camelot 3000'' comic series. Yes, including the way the King knew, but did not mention, something about the detection-method's efficacy.

Sharlee at 02:04, 7 September 2015

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	"The thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing" mirrors the swearing in of witnesses in court trials, when they are enjoined to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."		"The thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing" mirrors the swearing in of witnesses in court trials, when they are enjoined to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

	The Low King's use of the Scone like a lie detector to make Dee confess is very similar to how King Arthur used Excalibur to identify a traitor in the ''Camelot 3000'' comic series. Yes, including ~~fact~~ the King ~~was bluffing~~ about ~~it actually working as such~~.		The Low King's use of the Scone like a lie detector to make Dee confess is very similar to how King Arthur used Excalibur to identify a traitor in the ''Camelot 3000'' comic series. Yes, including the way the King knew, but did not mention, something about the detection-method's efficacy.

Sharlee at 02:02, 7 September 2015

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	"The thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing" mirrors the swearing in of witnesses in court trials, when they are enjoined to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."		"The thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing" mirrors the swearing in of witnesses in court trials, when they are enjoined to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

			The Low King's use of the Scone like a lie detector to make Dee confess is very similar to how King Arthur used Excalibur to identify a traitor in the ''Camelot 3000'' comic series. Yes, including fact the King was bluffing about it actually working as such.

Dromandkass at 00:44, 22 December 2012

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	{{spoilersfor\|''[[Book:The Fifth Elephant\|The Fifth Elephant]]''}}		{{spoilersfor\|''[[Book:The Fifth Elephant\|The Fifth Elephant]]''}}

	The '''Scone of Stone''' is the most famous form of [[Dwarf Bread\|dwarf bread]]. It has seated the [[Low King\|Low Kings]] of the [[Dwarfs]] since it was first created to seat [[B'hrian Bloodaxe]], some fifteen hundred years ago. The Low King cannot be Low King without this artifact. Tragedy came however when the scone was apparently stolen from its keeping place. The belief is that the truth was once something solid, like a mineral, and the last piece of it was baked into the Scone. The stone is also referred to as "the thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing."		The '''Scone of Stone''' is the most famous form of [[Dwarf Bread\|dwarf bread]]. It has seated the [[Low King\|Low Kings]] of the [[Dwarfs]] since it was first created to seat [[B'hrian Bloodaxe]], some fifteen hundred years ago. The Low King cannot be Low King without this artifact. Tragedy came however when the scone was apparently stolen from its keeping place. The belief is that the truth was once something solid, like a mineral, and the last piece of it was hidden by [[Agi Hammerthief]] and baked into the Scone. Because the Scone contains a grain of truth it is said to burn red-hot if a lie is told in it's presence, a fact than came in useful when [[Rhys Rhysson\| Low King Rhys]] wished to interrogate [[Dee]].

			The stone is also referred to as "the thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing."

	A copy of the stone is kept at the Museum of dwarf bread in [[Ankh-Morpork]].		A copy of the stone is kept at the Museum of dwarf bread in [[Ankh-Morpork]].

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{{spoilersfor|''[[Book:The Fifth Elephant|The Fifth Elephant]]''}}

The '''Scone of Stone''' is the most famous form of [[Dwarf Bread|dwarf bread]]. It has seated the [[Low King|Low Kings]] of the [[Dwarfs]] since it was first created to seat [[B'hrian Bloodaxe]], some fifteen hundred years ago. The Low King cannot be Low King without this artifact. Tragedy came however when the scone was apparently stolen from its keeping place. The belief is that the truth was once something solid, like a mineral, and the last piece of it was baked into the Scone. The stone is also referred to as "the thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing."

A copy of the stone is kept at the Museum of dwarf bread in [[Ankh-Morpork]].

It should be noted that dwarf bread only lasts for a maximum of 300 years and belief has strange side effects.

The Scone plays an important role in ''[[Book:The Fifth Elephant|The Fifth Elephant]]''.

==Annotations==

It is noteworthy that there is a Roundworld equivalent, namely the [[wikipedia:Stone_of_scone|Stone of Scone]] (pronounced 'scoon'), also commonly known as the Stone of Destiny or the Coronation Stone. It is a block of sandstone used for centuries in the coronation of the monarchs of Scotland, the monarchs of England, and, more recently, British monarchs. It was stolen in 1950 and returned about a year later. Even today rumours circulate that copies had been made of the Stone.

Another name the dwarfs give the Scone is the [[Low Throne]], which is itself a parody of many a 'High Throne' such as that at Cair Paravel in the ''Narnia'' series by CS Lewis.

In Irish mythology, the ''lias fail'' ('''stone of destiny''') is the traditional throne of the High King or Queen of All Ireland, and has a voice - it will scream or sing when the true High Monarch sits upon it. Later mythology is confused, but there is a hint that this was stolen by raiding Scots, who in turn had it stolen from them by the raiding English...

"The thing, the whole thing, and nothing but the thing" mirrors the swearing in of witnesses in court trials, when they are enjoined to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

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