Seamstresses' Guild - Revision history

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	And of course in Dutch/Afrikaans, the verb ''naaien'', formal meaning to stitch or sew, is slang for [[-ing]], so the Dutch translator probably got the joke immediately... the English euphemism is also found in Dutch, where the term 'naaister' or 'naaistertje' carries the same connotation as 'seamstress' does.		And of course in Dutch/Afrikaans, the verb ''naaien'', formal meaning to stitch or sew, is slang for [[-ing]], so the Dutch translator probably got the joke immediately... the English euphemism is also found in Dutch, where the term 'naaister' or 'naaistertje' carries the same connotation as 'seamstress' does.

	The choice of diversion via the ~~semstresses~~' occupation might lie in the possibility to explain a customers' lack of garments during an unexpected visit of law enforcement. Whether or not that requires the customer to bring all the clothes he intends to take off during his visit tattered seems negligible.		The choice of diversion via the seamstresses' occupation might lie in the possibility to explain a customers' lack of garments during an unexpected visit of law enforcement. Whether or not that requires the customer to bring all the clothes he intends to take off during his visit tattered seems negligible.


	[[Category:Guilds\|Seamstresses' Guild]]		[[Category:Guilds\|Seamstresses' Guild]]
	[[Category:Ankh-Morpork Businesses\|Seamstresses' Guild]]		[[Category:Ankh-Morpork Businesses\|Seamstresses' Guild]]
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	Motto: ''NIL VOLVPTI, SINE LVCRE.''		Motto: ''NIL VOLVPTI, SINE LVCRE.''

Stanang at 11:43, 15 September 2016

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	And of course in Dutch/Afrikaans, the verb ''naaien'', formal meaning to stitch or sew, is slang for [[-ing]], so the Dutch translator probably got the joke immediately... the English euphemism is also found in Dutch, where the term 'naaister' or 'naaistertje' carries the same connotation as 'seamstress' does.		And of course in Dutch/Afrikaans, the verb ''naaien'', formal meaning to stitch or sew, is slang for [[-ing]], so the Dutch translator probably got the joke immediately... the English euphemism is also found in Dutch, where the term 'naaister' or 'naaistertje' carries the same connotation as 'seamstress' does.

			The choice of diversion via the semstresses' occupation might lie in the possibility to explain a customers' lack of garments during an unexpected visit of law enforcement. Whether or not that requires the customer to bring all the clothes he intends to take off during his visit tattered seems negligible.

Richvanf at 03:20, 20 July 2016

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	The Seamstresses' Guild does not have a formal school, most of the training being, so to speak, on the job. Some Seamstresses are based in ''houses of negotiable affection'' or, in older language, houses of ill-repute, although these houses are often highly spoken of. The head of the guild is Mrs. [[Rosemary Palm]]; "''Mrs''" indicating seniority rather than marital status. The guild enforcers are the [[Agony Aunts]], Sadie and Dotsie, prim, silent old ladies who will always catch up with a client that has behaved badly toward the Seamstresses. A punished client who is able to complain to the [[Ankh-Morpork City Watch\|City Watch]] afterwards is considered to have gotten off lightly. Other veteran practitioners and holders of the title "''Mrs.''" comprise the Guild officers ... or "''Mr.''," in the case of Mr. Harris, proprietor of the [[Blue Cat Club]].		The Seamstresses' Guild does not have a formal school, most of the training being, so to speak, on the job. Some Seamstresses are based in ''houses of negotiable affection'' or, in older language, houses of ill-repute, although these houses are often highly spoken of. The head of the guild is Mrs. [[Rosemary Palm]]; "''Mrs''" indicating seniority rather than marital status. The guild enforcers are the [[Agony Aunts]], Sadie and Dotsie, prim, silent old ladies who will always catch up with a client that has behaved badly toward the Seamstresses. A punished client who is able to complain to the [[Ankh-Morpork City Watch\|City Watch]] afterwards is considered to have gotten off lightly. Other veteran practitioners and holders of the title "''Mrs.''" comprise the Guild officers ... or "''Mr.''," in the case of Mr. Harris, proprietor of the [[Blue Cat Club]].

	The Seamstresses regulate their own behaviours like other good guilds. For instance, the Guild prides itself that a customer may safely enjoy the services it provides, and will ''only'' end up battered, bereft of money and clothing, and otherwise ill-abused, in an alley in [[The Shades]] at midnight, if his personal tastes were to run that way. Any attempt to rob a customer might be viewed as provoking a [[demarcation]] dispute with the [[Thieves' Guild]], and it is certain the Guild Council will not view this favourably at all (and since the ~~Assassin~~'s Guild often expresses terminal displeasure with Thieves who employ excessive force, a customer who dies during such an act might provoke extreme measures from both Guilds--Mrs. Palm would not be amused; such events are very unprofitable).		The Seamstresses regulate their own behaviours like other good guilds. For instance, the Guild prides itself that a customer may safely enjoy the services it provides, and will ''only'' end up battered, bereft of money and clothing, and otherwise ill-abused, in an alley in [[The Shades]] at midnight, if his personal tastes were to run that way. Any attempt to rob a customer might be viewed as provoking a [[demarcation]] dispute with the [[Thieves' Guild]], and it is certain the Guild Council will not view this favourably at all (and since the [[Assassins' Guild]] often expresses terminal displeasure with Thieves who employ excessive force, a customer who dies during such an act might provoke extreme measures from both Guilds--Mrs. Palm would not be amused; such events are very unprofitable).

	Therefore, if [[Dolores Smother]] were ever a Guild member, her working ethos, of drugging and robbing unwary [[Borogravia\|Borogravian]] soldiers, would result at the very least in the revocation of her membership, and possibly the cancellation of additional privileges such as being able to breathe or walk without assistance. After all, the Guild prides itself on its tradition of negotiated hospitality and on the safety of clients who are going about the pursuit of their pleasures.		Therefore, if [[Dolores Smother]] were ever a Guild member, her working ethos, of drugging and robbing unwary [[Borogravia\|Borogravian]] soldiers, would result at the very least in the revocation of her membership, and possibly the cancellation of additional privileges such as being able to breathe or walk without assistance. After all, the Guild prides itself on its tradition of negotiated hospitality and on the safety of clients who are going about the pursuit of their pleasures.

Richvanf at 03:10, 20 July 2016

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	There seem to be many Seamstresses in [[Ankh-Morpork]], and yet bachelors or old widowers have difficulty when they try to find needlewomen who wield needles and threads to repair garments. Genuine ability with needle and thread and occasional mushroom is the province of [[Sandra Battye]], who retains the most cordial relationship with the Guild while, strictly speaking, not practicing as a Seamstress in the accepted sense of the word.		There seem to be many Seamstresses in [[Ankh-Morpork]], and yet bachelors or old widowers have difficulty when they try to find needlewomen who wield needles and threads to repair garments. Genuine ability with needle and thread and occasional mushroom is the province of [[Sandra Battye]], who retains the most cordial relationship with the Guild while, strictly speaking, not practicing as a Seamstress in the accepted sense of the word.

	The seamstresses in the Seamstresses' Guild are, in the politically-correct language of the modern Ankh-Morpork, ''ladies of negotiable affection'', ladies whose company and loving attention, crudely put, could be hired for a night. A survey of the [[Guild of Merchants]] in the docks area of Ankh-Morpork found 987 women who gave their profession as "seamstress" – and two needles (according to {{MAA}}).		The seamstresses in the Seamstresses' Guild are, in the politically-correct language of the modern Ankh-Morpork, ''ladies of negotiable affection'', ladies whose company and loving attention, crudely put, could be hired for a night. A survey by the [[Guild of Merchants]] in the docks area of Ankh-Morpork found 987 women who gave their profession as "seamstress" – and two needles (according to {{MAA}}).

	The Seamstresses' Guild does not have a formal school, most of the training being, so to speak, on the job. Some Seamstresses are based in ''houses of negotiable affection'' or, in older language, houses of ill-repute, although these houses are often highly spoken of. The head of the guild is Mrs. [[Rosemary Palm]]; "''Mrs''" indicating seniority rather than marital status. The guild enforcers are the [[Agony Aunts]], Sadie and Dotsie, prim, silent old ladies who will always catch up with a client that has behaved badly toward the Seamstresses. A punished client who is able to complain to the [[Ankh-Morpork City Watch\|City Watch]] afterwards is considered to have gotten off lightly. Other veteran practitioners and holders of the title "''Mrs.''" comprise the Guild officers ... or "''Mr.''," in the case of Mr. Harris, proprietor of the [[Blue Cat Club]].		The Seamstresses' Guild does not have a formal school, most of the training being, so to speak, on the job. Some Seamstresses are based in ''houses of negotiable affection'' or, in older language, houses of ill-repute, although these houses are often highly spoken of. The head of the guild is Mrs. [[Rosemary Palm]]; "''Mrs''" indicating seniority rather than marital status. The guild enforcers are the [[Agony Aunts]], Sadie and Dotsie, prim, silent old ladies who will always catch up with a client that has behaved badly toward the Seamstresses. A punished client who is able to complain to the [[Ankh-Morpork City Watch\|City Watch]] afterwards is considered to have gotten off lightly. Other veteran practitioners and holders of the title "''Mrs.''" comprise the Guild officers ... or "''Mr.''," in the case of Mr. Harris, proprietor of the [[Blue Cat Club]].

Richvanf at 03:09, 20 July 2016

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	The Seamstresses' Guild does not have a formal school, most of the training being, so to speak, on the job. Some Seamstresses are based in ''houses of negotiable affection'' or, in older language, houses of ill-repute, although these houses are often highly spoken of. The head of the guild is Mrs. [[Rosemary Palm]]; "''Mrs''" indicating seniority rather than marital status. The guild enforcers are the [[Agony Aunts]], Sadie and Dotsie, prim, silent old ladies who will always catch up with a client that has behaved badly toward the Seamstresses. A punished client who is able to complain to the [[Ankh-Morpork City Watch\|City Watch]] afterwards is considered to have gotten off lightly. Other veteran practitioners and holders of the title "''Mrs.''" comprise the Guild officers ... or "''Mr.''," in the case of Mr. Harris, proprietor of the [[Blue Cat Club]].		The Seamstresses' Guild does not have a formal school, most of the training being, so to speak, on the job. Some Seamstresses are based in ''houses of negotiable affection'' or, in older language, houses of ill-repute, although these houses are often highly spoken of. The head of the guild is Mrs. [[Rosemary Palm]]; "''Mrs''" indicating seniority rather than marital status. The guild enforcers are the [[Agony Aunts]], Sadie and Dotsie, prim, silent old ladies who will always catch up with a client that has behaved badly toward the Seamstresses. A punished client who is able to complain to the [[Ankh-Morpork City Watch\|City Watch]] afterwards is considered to have gotten off lightly. Other veteran practitioners and holders of the title "''Mrs.''" comprise the Guild officers ... or "''Mr.''," in the case of Mr. Harris, proprietor of the [[Blue Cat Club]].

	The Seamstresses regulate their own behaviours like other good guilds. For instance, the Guild prides itself that a customer may safely enjoy the services it provides, and will ''only'' end up battered, bereft of money and clothing, and otherwise ill-abused, in an alley in [[The Shades]] at midnight, if his personal tastes were to run that way. Any attempt to rob a customer might be viewed as provoking a [[demarcation]] dispute with the [[Thieves' Guild]], and it is certain the Guild Council will not view this favourably at all.		The Seamstresses regulate their own behaviours like other good guilds. For instance, the Guild prides itself that a customer may safely enjoy the services it provides, and will ''only'' end up battered, bereft of money and clothing, and otherwise ill-abused, in an alley in [[The Shades]] at midnight, if his personal tastes were to run that way. Any attempt to rob a customer might be viewed as provoking a [[demarcation]] dispute with the [[Thieves' Guild]], and it is certain the Guild Council will not view this favourably at all (and since the Assassin's Guild often expresses terminal displeasure with Thieves who employ excessive force, a customer who dies during such an act might provoke extreme measures from both Guilds--Mrs. Palm would not be amused; such events are very unprofitable).

	Therefore, if [[Dolores Smother]] were ever a Guild member, her working ethos, of drugging and robbing unwary [[Borogravia\|Borogravian]] soldiers, would result at the very least in the revocation of her membership, and possibly the cancellation of additional privileges such as being able to breathe or walk without assistance. After all, the Guild prides itself on its tradition of negotiated hospitality and on the safety of clients who are going about the pursuit of their pleasures.		Therefore, if [[Dolores Smother]] were ever a Guild member, her working ethos, of drugging and robbing unwary [[Borogravia\|Borogravian]] soldiers, would result at the very least in the revocation of her membership, and possibly the cancellation of additional privileges such as being able to breathe or walk without assistance. After all, the Guild prides itself on its tradition of negotiated hospitality and on the safety of clients who are going about the pursuit of their pleasures.

Jagra at 17:12, 17 January 2016

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	[[Category:Guilds]]		[[Category:Guilds\|Seamstresses' Guild]]
	[[Category:Ankh-Morpork Businesses]]		[[Category:Ankh-Morpork Businesses\|Seamstresses' Guild]]
	[[de:Näherinnengilde]]		[[de:Näherinnengilde]]

Kaye: Answered the question about the euphemism carrying across the North Sea!

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Answered the question about the euphemism carrying across the North Sea!

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	Also, during Seattle's earlier days, brothels were illegal, so prostitutes would list their jobs as "''Seamstresses''" when the cops came calling. During a period of minimal city revenues, it was required that Seattle prostitutes possess a "''Seamstress license''," and these fees became a major source of revenue for the city.		Also, during Seattle's earlier days, brothels were illegal, so prostitutes would list their jobs as "''Seamstresses''" when the cops came calling. During a period of minimal city revenues, it was required that Seattle prostitutes possess a "''Seamstress license''," and these fees became a major source of revenue for the city.

	And of course in Dutch/Afrikaans, the verb ''naaien'', formal meaning to stitch or sew, is slang for [[-ing]], so the Dutch translator probably got the joke immediately... ~~but what~~ in Dutch ~~conveys~~ the ~~euphemism seen in~~ the ~~English?~~		And of course in Dutch/Afrikaans, the verb ''naaien'', formal meaning to stitch or sew, is slang for [[-ing]], so the Dutch translator probably got the joke immediately... the English euphemism is also found in Dutch, where the term 'naaister' or 'naaistertje' carries the same connotation as 'seamstress' does.

Old Dickens: dusting

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dusting

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	An embarrassed or meaningful clearing of the throat is generally used while speaking the name of this [[Guilds of Ankh-Morpork\|guild]]. They call themselves seamstresses (hem, hem).		An embarrassed or meaningful clearing of the throat is generally used while speaking the name of this [[Guilds of Ankh-Morpork\|guild]]. They call themselves seamstresses (hem, hem).

	There seem to be many Seamstresses in [[Ankh-Morpork]], and yet bachelors or old widowers have difficulty when they try to find needlewomen who wield needles and threads to repair garments. Genuine ability with needle and thread and ~~occassional~~ mushroom is the province of [[Sandra Battye]], who retains the most cordial relationship with the Guild while, strictly speaking, not practicing as a Seamstress in the accepted sense of the word.		There seem to be many Seamstresses in [[Ankh-Morpork]], and yet bachelors or old widowers have difficulty when they try to find needlewomen who wield needles and threads to repair garments. Genuine ability with needle and thread and occasional mushroom is the province of [[Sandra Battye]], who retains the most cordial relationship with the Guild while, strictly speaking, not practicing as a Seamstress in the accepted sense of the word.

	The seamstresses in the Seamstresses' Guild are, in the politically-correct language of the modern Ankh-Morpork, ''ladies of negotiable affection'', ladies whose company and loving attention, crudely put, could be hired for a night. A survey of the [[Guild of Merchants]] in the docks area of Ankh-Morpork found 987 women who gave their profession as "seamstress" – and two needles (according to {{MAA}}).		The seamstresses in the Seamstresses' Guild are, in the politically-correct language of the modern Ankh-Morpork, ''ladies of negotiable affection'', ladies whose company and loving attention, crudely put, could be hired for a night. A survey of the [[Guild of Merchants]] in the docks area of Ankh-Morpork found 987 women who gave their profession as "seamstress" – and two needles (according to {{MAA}}).

	The Seamstresses' Guild does not have a formal school, most of the training being, so to speak, on the job. Some Seamstresses are based in ''houses of negotiable affection'' or, in older language, houses of ill-repute, although these houses are often highly spoken of. The head of the guild is Mrs. [[Rosemary Palm]]; "''Mrs''" indicating seniority rather than marital status. The guild enforcers are the [[Agony Aunts]], Sadie and Dotsie, prim, silent old ladies who will always catch up with a client that has behaved badly toward the Seamstresses. A punished client who is able to complain to the [[Ankh-Morpork City Watch\|City Watch]] afterwards is considered to have gotten off lightly. Other veteran practitioners and holders of the title "''Mrs.''" comprise the Guild officers ... or "''Mr.''," in the case of Mr. Harris, proprietor of the [[Blue Cat Club]].		The Seamstresses' Guild does not have a formal school, most of the training being, so to speak, on the job. Some Seamstresses are based in ''houses of negotiable affection'' or, in older language, houses of ill-repute, although these houses are often highly spoken of. The head of the guild is Mrs. [[Rosemary Palm]]; "''Mrs''" indicating seniority rather than marital status. The guild enforcers are the [[Agony Aunts]], Sadie and Dotsie, prim, silent old ladies who will always catch up with a client that has behaved badly toward the Seamstresses. A punished client who is able to complain to the [[Ankh-Morpork City Watch\|City Watch]] afterwards is considered to have gotten off lightly. Other veteran practitioners and holders of the title "''Mrs.''" comprise the Guild officers ... or "''Mr.''," in the case of Mr. Harris, proprietor of the [[Blue Cat Club]].

	The Seamstresses regulate their own behaviours like other good guilds. For instance, the Guild prides itself that a customer may safely enjoy the services it provides, and will ''only'' end up battered, bereft of money and clothing, and otherwise ill-abused, in an alley in [[The Shades]] at midnight, if his personal tastes were to run that way. Any attempt to rob a customer might be viewed as provoking a [[demarcation]] dispute with the [[Thieves' Guild]], and it is certain the Guild Council will not view this favourably at all.		The Seamstresses regulate their own behaviours like other good guilds. For instance, the Guild prides itself that a customer may safely enjoy the services it provides, and will ''only'' end up battered, bereft of money and clothing, and otherwise ill-abused, in an alley in [[The Shades]] at midnight, if his personal tastes were to run that way. Any attempt to rob a customer might be viewed as provoking a [[demarcation]] dispute with the [[Thieves' Guild]], and it is certain the Guild Council will not view this favourably at all.

	Therefore, if [[Dolores Smother]] ~~was~~ ever a Guild member, her working ethos, of drugging and robbing unwary [[Borogravia\|Borogravian]] soldiers, would result at the very least in the revocation of her membership, and possibly the cancellation of additional privileges such as being able to breathe or walk without assistance. After all, the Guild prides itself on its tradition of negotiated hospitality and on the safety of clients who are going about the pursuit of their pleasures.		Therefore, if [[Dolores Smother]] were ever a Guild member, her working ethos, of drugging and robbing unwary [[Borogravia\|Borogravian]] soldiers, would result at the very least in the revocation of her membership, and possibly the cancellation of additional privileges such as being able to breathe or walk without assistance. After all, the Guild prides itself on its tradition of negotiated hospitality and on the safety of clients who are going about the pursuit of their pleasures.

	References in the Post Office edition of the Discworld Diary imply that this Guild also regulates the sale and distribution of pornography within Ankh-Morpork. Printed materials of an erotic nature that are shipped via post must be countersigned by a Seamstresses' Guild representative, and a ratings system apparently exists to evaluate whether content is too adult to be sent unsealed.		References in the Post Office edition of the Discworld Diary imply that this Guild also regulates the sale and distribution of pornography within Ankh-Morpork. Printed materials of an erotic nature that are shipped via post must be countersigned by a Seamstresses' Guild representative, and a ratings system apparently exists to evaluate whether content is too adult to be sent unsealed.

	The Seamstresses had wanted to form a guild for decades. [[Mad Lord Snapcase\|Lord Snapcase]] had promised to let them form one, but had since neglected them after he became [[Patrician]] (see {{NW}}). Later, the new Patrician, Lord [[Havelock Vetinari]], allowed the Seamstresses to form a guild. This is now one of the more powerful [[Guilds of Ankh-Morpork\|guilds]] in [[Ankh-Morpork]].		The Seamstresses had wanted to form a guild for decades. [[Mad Lord Snapcase\|Lord Snapcase]] had promised to let them form one, but had since neglected them after he became [[Patrician]] (see {{NW}}). Later, the new Patrician, Lord [[Havelock Vetinari]], allowed the Seamstresses to form a guild. This is now one of the more powerful [[Guilds of Ankh-Morpork\|guilds]] in [[Ankh-Morpork]].
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	Also, during Seattle's earlier days, brothels were illegal, so prostitutes would list their jobs as "''Seamstresses''" when the cops came calling. During a period of minimal city revenues, it was required that Seattle prostitutes possess a "''Seamstress license''," and these fees became a major source of revenue for the city.		Also, during Seattle's earlier days, brothels were illegal, so prostitutes would list their jobs as "''Seamstresses''" when the cops came calling. During a period of minimal city revenues, it was required that Seattle prostitutes possess a "''Seamstress license''," and these fees became a major source of revenue for the city.

	And of course in Dutch/Afrikaans, the verb ''naaien'', formal meaning to ~~stich~~ or sew, is slang for [[-ing]], so the Dutch translator probably got the joke immediately... but what in Dutch conveys the euphemism seen in the English?		And of course in Dutch/Afrikaans, the verb ''naaien'', formal meaning to stitch or sew, is slang for [[-ing]], so the Dutch translator probably got the joke immediately... but what in Dutch conveys the euphemism seen in the English?


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	[[Category:Ankh-Morpork Businesses]]		[[Category:Ankh-Morpork Businesses]]
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