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	* 'das' - on/by/the [liberties taken WRT German pronouns etc]		* 'das' - on/by/the [liberties taken WRT German pronouns etc]
	* 'keit' - grammatical change suffix		* 'keit' - grammatical change suffix
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Snafu: Additional speculation on the meaning of Vonallesvolkommenunverstandlichdasdaskeit

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Additional speculation on the meaning of Vonallesvolkommenunverstandlichdasdaskeit

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	Terry was being unjust. The Greengrocer's apostrophe has long been a source of ridicule, but the origin of the apostrophe in the first place was to show the "e" Johnson used in plural words like "Peares" had been missed out. Robert Barltrop's "The Muvver Tongue" is an excellent source for insight into Cockney and what has developed into Estuary English. [[User:WillE\|WillE]] ([[User talk:WillE\|talk]]) 18:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)		Terry was being unjust. The Greengrocer's apostrophe has long been a source of ridicule, but the origin of the apostrophe in the first place was to show the "e" Johnson used in plural words like "Peares" had been missed out. Robert Barltrop's "The Muvver Tongue" is an excellent source for insight into Cockney and what has developed into Estuary English. [[User:WillE\|WillE]] ([[User talk:WillE\|talk]]) 18:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)


			==Vonallesvolkommenunverstandlichdasdaskeit==

			(Doubleday p78)

			From comments in https://alt.fan.pratchett.narkive.com/iGHzZIHV/r-question-for-germans-and-linguists I suggest the word is meant to mean:

			"All people who come to understanding stand on the shoulders [of giants]", paraphrasing Newton's famous quote

			* 'Von' - from
			* 'alles' - all
			* 'volk' - people [lit. 'folk']
			* 'kommen' - come (to)
			* 'unverstandlich' - understanding
			* 'das' - on/by/the [liberties taken WRT German pronouns etc]
			* 'keit' - grammatical change suffix

Old Dickens: pineapplesauce

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pineapplesauce

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	More Internet trivia: concept not yet confirmed. Apparently in the antebellum Deep South, the equivalent of giving somebody the cold shoulder was to give them a pineapple. The sacred duty of hosting guests means you can't tell them to piss off when it's got to the [[Hat]], The Vulture-Headed-God of Unwelcome Guests stage. Mediaeval lords got around this by putting their unwelcome guests on the same cold mutton ration the peasants got. In the Deep South and other parts of the USA, they put a pineapple on the bedside table - this fruit being so common you fed the slaves on it, or something. The clear hint: it's been real nice havin' y'all, but y'all better hit the road now, you hear? So Getting Past The Pineapple might have the association of heaving a deep sigh, packing your carpet-bag and getting someone to saddle up your horse.[[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)		More Internet trivia: concept not yet confirmed. Apparently in the antebellum Deep South, the equivalent of giving somebody the cold shoulder was to give them a pineapple. The sacred duty of hosting guests means you can't tell them to piss off when it's got to the [[Hat]], The Vulture-Headed-God of Unwelcome Guests stage. Mediaeval lords got around this by putting their unwelcome guests on the same cold mutton ration the peasants got. In the Deep South and other parts of the USA, they put a pineapple on the bedside table - this fruit being so common you fed the slaves on it, or something. The clear hint: it's been real nice havin' y'all, but y'all better hit the road now, you hear? So Getting Past The Pineapple might have the association of heaving a deep sigh, packing your carpet-bag and getting someone to saddle up your horse.[[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
			:I don't mess with annotations much, but AgProv seems to have it bass-ackwards here. The pineapple was (and remains, especially in Charleston) a symbol of hospitality, from the days when they were rare and expensive. I recall a suggestion that if the pineapple was not at the table any more, you shouldn't be, either, but I haven't confirmed that yet. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 03:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

	== Greengrocers ==		== Greengrocers ==

WillE: /* Pineapples and getting past them... */

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Pineapples and getting past them...

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	More Internet trivia: concept not yet confirmed. Apparently in the antebellum Deep South, the equivalent of giving somebody the cold shoulder was to give them a pineapple. The sacred duty of hosting guests means you can't tell them to piss off when it's got to the [[Hat]], The Vulture-Headed-God of Unwelcome Guests stage. Mediaeval lords got around this by putting their unwelcome guests on the same cold mutton ration the peasants got. In the Deep South and other parts of the USA, they put a pineapple on the bedside table - this fruit being so common you fed the slaves on it, or something. The clear hint: it's been real nice havin' y'all, but y'all better hit the road now, you hear? So Getting Past The Pineapple might have the association of heaving a deep sigh, packing your carpet-bag and getting someone to saddle up your horse.[[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)		More Internet trivia: concept not yet confirmed. Apparently in the antebellum Deep South, the equivalent of giving somebody the cold shoulder was to give them a pineapple. The sacred duty of hosting guests means you can't tell them to piss off when it's got to the [[Hat]], The Vulture-Headed-God of Unwelcome Guests stage. Mediaeval lords got around this by putting their unwelcome guests on the same cold mutton ration the peasants got. In the Deep South and other parts of the USA, they put a pineapple on the bedside table - this fruit being so common you fed the slaves on it, or something. The clear hint: it's been real nice havin' y'all, but y'all better hit the road now, you hear? So Getting Past The Pineapple might have the association of heaving a deep sigh, packing your carpet-bag and getting someone to saddle up your horse.[[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

			== Greengrocers ==

			''(p56) "'Be with you in jus't one moment, s'ir, I'm ju'st—'" – Greengrocers throughout the English-speaking world (but in England in particular) are known for their persistent abuse of the apostrophe-ess combination on their handwritten signs.
			''

			Terry was being unjust. The Greengrocer's apostrophe has long been a source of ridicule, but the origin of the apostrophe in the first place was to show the "e" Johnson used in plural words like "Peares" had been missed out. Robert Barltrop's "The Muvver Tongue" is an excellent source for insight into Cockney and what has developed into Estuary English. [[User:WillE\|WillE]] ([[User talk:WillE\|talk]]) 18:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

AgProv: /* Pineapples and getting past them... */

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Pineapples and getting past them...

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	== Pineapples and getting past them... ==		== Pineapples and getting past them... ==

	More Internet trivia: concept not yet confirmed. Apparently in the antebellum Deep South, the equivalent of giving somebody the cold shoulder was to give them a pineapple. The sacred duty of hosting guests means you can't tell them to piss off when it's got to the Hat, The Vulture-Headed-God of Unwelcome Guests stage. Mediaeval lords got around this by putting their unwelcome guests on the same cold mutton ration the peasants got. In the Deep South and other parts of the USA, they put a pineapple on the bedside table - this fruit being so common you fed the slaves on it, or something. The clear hint: it's been real nice havin' y'all, but y'all better hit the road now, you hear? So Getting Past The Pineapple might have the association of heaving a deep sigh, packing your carpet-bag and getting someone to saddle up your horse.[[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)		More Internet trivia: concept not yet confirmed. Apparently in the antebellum Deep South, the equivalent of giving somebody the cold shoulder was to give them a pineapple. The sacred duty of hosting guests means you can't tell them to piss off when it's got to the [[Hat]], The Vulture-Headed-God of Unwelcome Guests stage. Mediaeval lords got around this by putting their unwelcome guests on the same cold mutton ration the peasants got. In the Deep South and other parts of the USA, they put a pineapple on the bedside table - this fruit being so common you fed the slaves on it, or something. The clear hint: it's been real nice havin' y'all, but y'all better hit the road now, you hear? So Getting Past The Pineapple might have the association of heaving a deep sigh, packing your carpet-bag and getting someone to saddle up your horse.[[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

AgProv: /* Pineapples and getting past them... */ new section

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Pineapples and getting past them...: new section

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	When postage stamps are first invented, Moist wonders about a method of separating them from a sheet without having to go through the long-winded process of cutting them out one at a time with scissors. He remembers how Stanley secured pins to paper - by pushing them through it - and, being Stanley, this leaves a long precise line of regularly shaped holes which may be torn. He describes this to the techs at Teemer and Spools, who then build a machine to create perforations. This has apparently never been done before, and Moist gives T&S the copyright and patent for the machine. Yet much earlier in the book, he visits Dave's Pin Exchange and explicitly asks for - and buys - a roll of ''pre-perforated backing paper to display pins on''. So the technology for making perforated paper clearly already existed on the Disc? He didn't need to re-invent it! [[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 20 June 2014 (UTC)		When postage stamps are first invented, Moist wonders about a method of separating them from a sheet without having to go through the long-winded process of cutting them out one at a time with scissors. He remembers how Stanley secured pins to paper - by pushing them through it - and, being Stanley, this leaves a long precise line of regularly shaped holes which may be torn. He describes this to the techs at Teemer and Spools, who then build a machine to create perforations. This has apparently never been done before, and Moist gives T&S the copyright and patent for the machine. Yet much earlier in the book, he visits Dave's Pin Exchange and explicitly asks for - and buys - a roll of ''pre-perforated backing paper to display pins on''. So the technology for making perforated paper clearly already existed on the Disc? He didn't need to re-invent it! [[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

			== Pineapples and getting past them... ==

			More Internet trivia: concept not yet confirmed. Apparently in the antebellum Deep South, the equivalent of giving somebody the cold shoulder was to give them a pineapple. The sacred duty of hosting guests means you can't tell them to piss off when it's got to the Hat, The Vulture-Headed-God of Unwelcome Guests stage. Mediaeval lords got around this by putting their unwelcome guests on the same cold mutton ration the peasants got. In the Deep South and other parts of the USA, they put a pineapple on the bedside table - this fruit being so common you fed the slaves on it, or something. The clear hint: it's been real nice havin' y'all, but y'all better hit the road now, you hear? So Getting Past The Pineapple might have the association of heaving a deep sigh, packing your carpet-bag and getting someone to saddle up your horse.[[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

AgProv: /* A little flaw in the book's plot */ new section

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A little flaw in the book's plot: new section

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	I feel that I must point out that Aragorn has the undoubted right to use the Palantír, because he was King, and that his statement to this effect is made to Gimli and Legolas, not Gandalf. He says, "Nay, my friends, I am the lawful master of the Stone, and I had both the right and the strength to use it, or so I judged. The right cannot be doubted. The strength was enough—barely." ''The Lord of the Rings'', Book Five, Chapter II (''The Return of the King'' page 53 in my edition).		I feel that I must point out that Aragorn has the undoubted right to use the Palantír, because he was King, and that his statement to this effect is made to Gimli and Legolas, not Gandalf. He says, "Nay, my friends, I am the lawful master of the Stone, and I had both the right and the strength to use it, or so I judged. The right cannot be doubted. The strength was enough—barely." ''The Lord of the Rings'', Book Five, Chapter II (''The Return of the King'' page 53 in my edition).
	--[[User:Edanite\|Edanite]] 03:56, 26 June 2007 (CEST)		--[[User:Edanite\|Edanite]] 03:56, 26 June 2007 (CEST)

			== A little flaw in the book's plot ==

			When postage stamps are first invented, Moist wonders about a method of separating them from a sheet without having to go through the long-winded process of cutting them out one at a time with scissors. He remembers how Stanley secured pins to paper - by pushing them through it - and, being Stanley, this leaves a long precise line of regularly shaped holes which may be torn. He describes this to the techs at Teemer and Spools, who then build a machine to create perforations. This has apparently never been done before, and Moist gives T&S the copyright and patent for the machine. Yet much earlier in the book, he visits Dave's Pin Exchange and explicitly asks for - and buys - a roll of ''pre-perforated backing paper to display pins on''. So the technology for making perforated paper clearly already existed on the Disc? He didn't need to re-invent it! [[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 21:39, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Confusion: /* Moved from main page */

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	With regard to the question of how the hospital is funded: As I understand it, free hospitals in Victorian Britain generally kept going through a combination of voluntary donations (such as the one Dr Lawn solicits from Moist), careful investment, being largely staffed with volunteers, and (I believe) a sort of financial inertia where most of the time they couldn't ''afford'' to go bankrupt. [[User:Daibhid C\|Daibhid C]] 15:18, 26 October 2006 (CEST)		With regard to the question of how the hospital is funded: As I understand it, free hospitals in Victorian Britain generally kept going through a combination of voluntary donations (such as the one Dr Lawn solicits from Moist), careful investment, being largely staffed with volunteers, and (I believe) a sort of financial inertia where most of the time they couldn't ''afford'' to go bankrupt. [[User:Daibhid C\|Daibhid C]] 15:18, 26 October 2006 (CEST)

			If we all agree, I will fix it and remove the disclaimer. By the way, aren't the annotations for pages 12 and 13 the same? --[[User:Confusion\|Confusion]] ([[User talk:Confusion\|talk]]) 06:14, 2 January 2014 (GMT)

	Page 224 - the Smoking Gnu - I always thought the choice of gnu was more in geeky reference to Gnu Not Unix rather than the mammal given the circumstances...maybe I was reading too much into it at the time.		Page 224 - the Smoking Gnu - I always thought the choice of gnu was more in geeky reference to Gnu Not Unix rather than the mammal given the circumstances...maybe I was reading too much into it at the time.

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