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		<title>GallifreyanWitch at 03:43, 20 April 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Heh... I have an unformed fanfic/fan-art idea, where my Quirmian Assassin Madame Deux-Epées becomes the life-model for &amp;quot;Quirm&amp;quot;&amp;#039;s national anthropomorphic personification...  Marianne, spirit of the French Revolution, is always depicted in a badly--secured shift where one breast is exposed... not sure what name Marianne would take on the Discworld, though! [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 22:36, 19 April 2014 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Heh... I have an unformed fanfic/fan-art idea, where my Quirmian Assassin Madame Deux-Epées becomes the life-model for &amp;quot;Quirm&amp;quot;&amp;#039;s national anthropomorphic personification...  Marianne, spirit of the French Revolution, is always depicted in a badly--secured shift where one breast is exposed... not sure what name Marianne would take on the Discworld, though! [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 22:36, 19 April 2014 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Seeing the pic of Mme les Deux-Epees in the Guild Diary I can see what you mean - she does look like she&#039;d make a good basis/personification of a Quirm Goddess/personification.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Well, I&#039;m not great at coming up with names usually, but after a quick look through popular French/Belgian names on good old Wikipedia, perhaps variations/developments of the following may be of use: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_%28given_name%29 Leah] (linked to the hebrew for &#039;weary&#039; of the chaldean name meaning &#039;mistress&#039; or &#039;ruler&#039;), [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_%28name%29 Charlotte] (theres a lot of variations - female version of charles meaning &#039;strong and virile&#039; or &#039;vigorous&#039;), [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_%28given_name%29 Marie] or Manon (as well as meanings like beloved, loved, star of the sea can also mean renowned or famous or bitter and is of course liked to the marianne), [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephine_%28given_name%29 Josephine] (meaning wise isn&#039;t easy to work with, but considering the link of a Josephine to Napoleon Bonaparte and therefore french revolution - therefore linking with Marianne could be useful), [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_%28name%29 Eva] (meaning life or living one - a bit of an irony for an assassin link but also if the assassin remains the living one it&#039;s probably good news for that assassin (and bad news for their client)), [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor Eleanor] (again, meaning wise difficult, but could do some nice variations of, very french/quirmian, historical, noble and there&#039;s been a few strong women in the past with this name) or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_%28given_name%29 Louise] (again theres variations, very french/germanic and can mean &#039;Famous Warrior&#039; -the link to Marianne and revolution and the skill of an assassin seem highly related here). Just a few ideas, and since deities don&#039;t always have wild imaginations I expect it would be possible to go off on a tangent from something like these quite effectively. What I sometimes do is follow the the Ecalpon/Llamedos rule: if in doubt spell it backwards.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Glad I&#039;m not the only one thinking up storylines related to supernatural discworld entities.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>AgProv at 22:36, 19 April 2014</title>
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		<updated>2014-04-19T22:36:08Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Only just read this page and the link to bureaucracy and red tape etc immediately put me in mind of Old Harry&amp;#039;s Game (though it&amp;#039;s still very much a roundworld vision of hell). For a sample, someone has made [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc7WnDgt0yY this video] based on some excerpts from the BBC 4 radio show [warning - contains a little bit of plasticine character nudity in a scene where Satan stops a tortoise being sacrificed (puts me in mind of Om) - I feel a bit hesitant about sharing something with nudity, even like this, but it is a good radio show and considering Terry considers Narrativia should be depicted &amp;#039;smoking a cigarette and showing one breast&amp;#039; I guess I should get over being a little prudish and can reconcile it with myself with this warning.]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Only just read this page and the link to bureaucracy and red tape etc immediately put me in mind of Old Harry&amp;#039;s Game (though it&amp;#039;s still very much a roundworld vision of hell). For a sample, someone has made [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc7WnDgt0yY this video] based on some excerpts from the BBC 4 radio show [warning - contains a little bit of plasticine character nudity in a scene where Satan stops a tortoise being sacrificed (puts me in mind of Om) - I feel a bit hesitant about sharing something with nudity, even like this, but it is a good radio show and considering Terry considers Narrativia should be depicted &amp;#039;smoking a cigarette and showing one breast&amp;#039; I guess I should get over being a little prudish and can reconcile it with myself with this warning.]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:GallifreyanWitch|Verity]] ([[User talk:GallifreyanWitch|talk]]) 20:57, 19 April 2014 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:GallifreyanWitch|Verity]] ([[User talk:GallifreyanWitch|talk]]) 20:57, 19 April 2014 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Heh... I have an unformed fanfic/fan-art idea, where my Quirmian Assassin Madame Deux-Epées becomes the life-model for &quot;Quirm&quot;&#039;s national anthropomorphic personification...  Marianne, spirit of the French Revolution, is always depicted in a badly--secured shift where one breast is exposed... not sure what name Marianne would take on the Discworld, though! [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 22:36, 19 April 2014 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>GallifreyanWitch: Link to Old Harry&#039;s Game</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Link to Old Harry&amp;#039;s Game&lt;/p&gt;
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Only just read this page and the link to bureaucracy and red tape etc immediately put me in mind of Old Harry&amp;#039;s Game (though it&amp;#039;s still very much a roundworld vision of hell). For a sample, someone has made [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc7WnDgt0yY this video] based on some excerpts from the BBC 4 radio show [warning - contains a little bit of plasticine character nudity in a scene where Satan stops a tortoise being sacrificed (puts me in mind of Om) - I feel a bit hesitant about sharing something with nudity, even like this, but it is a good radio show and considering Terry considers Narrativia should be depicted &amp;#039;smoking a cigarette and showing one breast&amp;#039; I guess I should get over being a little prudish and can reconcile it with myself with this warning.]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:GallifreyanWitch|Verity]] ([[User talk:GallifreyanWitch|talk]]) 20:57, 19 April 2014 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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