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	::I agree with Knmatt. Either keep it as 'born' or add where it's borne. [[User:Doctor Whiteface\|Doctor Whiteface]] 16:40, 19 December 2009 (UTC)		::I agree with Knmatt. Either keep it as 'born' or add where it's borne. [[User:Doctor Whiteface\|Doctor Whiteface]] 16:40, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

			[[User:Doctor Whiteface]] admitted to having no sense of humor. I never really learned [[User:Knmatt]]'s problem. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 16:54, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

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	There are now five pages of opinion and irrelevant if interesting factoids below the one-page article here. How about moving them to [[Music With Rocks In/Annotations]] or [[Book:Soul Music/Annotations]]? --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] 15:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)		There are now five pages of opinion and irrelevant if interesting factoids below the one-page article here. How about moving them to ''Music With Rocks In/Annotations'' or [[Book:Soul Music/Annotations]]? --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] 15:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

	Done. I hired several large trolls to carry it all over. --[[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] 15:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)		Done. I hired several large trolls to carry it all over. --[[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] 15:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

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Hell, is it really twenty-eight years since I went into the one-and-only record shop in Shotton, Flintshire, and timidly asked for a copy of "Bad for Good" by Jim Steinman... then got off on sounds like "Bad for Good", "Lost Boys and Golden girls" and "Left in the Dark"... I even thought this WAS Meatloaf recording under a different name, as to all intents and purposes it was identical...--[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 13:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Ref. the Bo Diddley line: on Sat 5th July 2008, BBC Radio Two broadcast an hour-long tribute to the man and his music, presented by no less than Roger Daltrey. Daltrey discussed the ''shave-and-a-haircut: two pence'' versus ''hambone'' theories about the classic Diddley riff at some length, enlisting various contemporary bluesmen and Diddley himself (recorded archive material) to present arguments for and against: Daltrey concluded that the jury was still out. It's probably still available as a "listen again" via the BBC Radio website. --[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 09:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== imp/ buddy ==

After his "death" he works in the fish and chip shop. There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis by Kirsty Maccoll.

==Separate Annotation?==

There are now five pages of opinion and irrelevant if interesting factoids below the one-page article here. How about moving them to [[Music With Rocks In/Annotations]] or [[Book:Soul Music/Annotations]]? --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 15:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Done. I hired several large trolls to carry it all over. --[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 15:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

==Past Participles ==
Why not? <BR>
"Usage Note: Thanks to the vagaries of English spelling, bear has two past participles: born and borne. Traditionally, born is used only in passive constructions referring to birth: I was born in Chicago. For all other uses, including active constructions referring to birth, borne is the standard form: She has borne both her children at home. I have borne his insolence with the patience of a saint."<BR>
I didn't mean to suggest Imp was ''born'' then; that was much earlier in Llamedos. It was also the only reason for the whole construction; now it's just a lame cliché. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 15:14, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

:Granted, but in this instance, the phrase "a star was born" is referring to the act of nascency - being born, or reborn - as someone else, hence it doesn't take an 'e'. He wasn't borne anywhere, he was given birth to. And in the case of "She has borne both her children at home", it is a very clumsy construction - you would say "she ''bore'' both" or "she ''gave birth to'' both". But let's not fight about it - it's too small a point! --[[User:Knmatt|Knmatt]] 15:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

No, it's a medium-sized point. Why can't it mean what I wrote and intended in the first place, i.e. ''borne'' by the guitar, or the Music within? --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 16:06, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Because there's no verb subject. the key point here is, at least from what I can see, "borne ''where?''" [[User:Doctor Whiteface|Doctor Whiteface]] 16:10, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

No one has asked ''where'' Hamlet's fardels are borne; whither shall sorrow be borne? It's passive; the subject is "star". --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 16:30, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

:''Who would fardels bear: to grunt and sweat under a weary life?'' - as in "carry". Sorry, Dickens, I don't like it. That's not to say it shouldn't ''be''. Can't we all agree to change it to "A star was borne ''to great heights by the music''" or some such? Is that such a pitiful compromise? --[[User:Knmatt|Knmatt]] 16:38, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

::I agree with Knmatt. Either keep it as 'born' or add where it's borne. [[User:Doctor Whiteface|Doctor Whiteface]] 16:40, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

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