Talk:Reverse Annotations - Revision history

Guybrush: /* Other Fools' Guild */

2023-10-13T11:38:06Z

Other Fools' Guild

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	The Alan Gordon stories may come from another source but they don't predate {{WS}} (1988). --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 04:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)		The Alan Gordon stories may come from another source but they don't predate {{WS}} (1988). --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 04:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
	:They don’t…but then they’d need not to if they’re to qualify as a reverse annotation. But ~~then~~ this entry ~~says~~ the author ~~says~~ it isn’t a Pratchett reference. Do we need or want entries which just lay out why something ''doesn’t'' belong in this list? I’m a bit mystified with this one. — [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 11:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)		:They don’t…but then they’d need not to if they’re to qualify as a reverse annotation. But this entry now cites the author saying it ''isn’t'' a Pratchett reference. Do we need or want entries which just lay out why something ''doesn’t'' belong in this list? I’m a bit mystified with this one. — [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 11:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Guybrush: /* Other Fools' Guild */

2023-10-13T11:35:45Z

Other Fools' Guild

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	The Alan Gordon stories may come from another source but they don't predate {{WS}} (1988). --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 04:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)		The Alan Gordon stories may come from another source but they don't predate {{WS}} (1988). --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 04:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
	:~~It doesn’t…but~~ then ~~it would~~ need not to if ~~it’s~~ to qualify as a reverse annotation. But then this entry says the author says it isn’t a Pratchett reference. Do we need or want entries which just lay out why something ''doesn’t'' belong in this list? I’m a bit mystified with this one. — [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 11:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)		:They don’t…but then they’d need not to if they’re to qualify as a reverse annotation. But then this entry says the author says it isn’t a Pratchett reference. Do we need or want entries which just lay out why something ''doesn’t'' belong in this list? I’m a bit mystified with this one. — [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 11:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Guybrush: /* Other Fools' Guild */

2023-10-13T11:34:47Z

Other Fools' Guild

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	The Alan Gordon stories may come from another source but they don't predate {{WS}} (1988). --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 04:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)		The Alan Gordon stories may come from another source but they don't predate {{WS}} (1988). --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 04:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
			:It doesn’t…but then it would need not to if it’s to qualify as a reverse annotation. But then this entry says the author says it isn’t a Pratchett reference. Do we need or want entries which just lay out why something ''doesn’t'' belong in this list? I’m a bit mystified with this one. — [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 11:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Old Dickens: Alan Gordon dates

2023-10-08T04:34:36Z

Alan Gordon dates

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	:I have long been in favor of weeding annotations (and slashing and burning). See comments above. Distinguishing between tropes and reverse (or forward) annotations is a good start. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 17:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC) This seems like such a rich mine of fishing from the same stream that I don't know where to start. AgProv certainly went overboard with Fusco... --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 01:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC)		:I have long been in favor of weeding annotations (and slashing and burning). See comments above. Distinguishing between tropes and reverse (or forward) annotations is a good start. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 17:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC) This seems like such a rich mine of fishing from the same stream that I don't know where to start. AgProv certainly went overboard with Fusco... --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 01:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
	::I've made a start! I'll come back periodically. I will probably also add some actual ones; a good place to start finding them is [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ReferencedBy/Discworld the TV Tropes "Referenced By" page for Discworld]. Those are all legit references, and there are quite a few we don't have. -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 07:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)		::I've made a start! I'll come back periodically. I will probably also add some actual ones; a good place to start finding them is [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ReferencedBy/Discworld the TV Tropes "Referenced By" page for Discworld]. Those are all legit references, and there are quite a few we don't have. -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 07:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

			==Other Fools' Guild==
			The Alan Gordon stories may come from another source but they don't predate {{WS}} (1988). --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 04:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Guybrush: /* Time for some weeding? */

2022-12-17T07:27:57Z

Time for some weeding?

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	A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. (Indeed, we even have an article about it: "[[fishing from the same stream]]".) Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)		A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. (Indeed, we even have an article about it: "[[fishing from the same stream]]".) Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
	:I have long been in favor of weeding annotations (and slashing and burning). See comments above. Distinguishing between tropes and reverse (or forward) annotations is a good start. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 17:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC) This seems like such a rich mine of fishing from the same stream that I don't know where to start. AgProv certainly went overboard with Fusco... --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 01:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC)		:I have long been in favor of weeding annotations (and slashing and burning). See comments above. Distinguishing between tropes and reverse (or forward) annotations is a good start. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 17:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC) This seems like such a rich mine of fishing from the same stream that I don't know where to start. AgProv certainly went overboard with Fusco... --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 01:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
			::I've made a start! I'll come back periodically. I will probably also add some actual ones; a good place to start finding them is [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ReferencedBy/Discworld the TV Tropes "Referenced By" page for Discworld]. Those are all legit references, and there are quite a few we don't have. -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 07:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Old Dickens: /* Time for some weeding? */

2022-12-17T01:09:31Z

Time for some weeding?

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	A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. (Indeed, we even have an article about it: "[[fishing from the same stream]]".) Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)		A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. (Indeed, we even have an article about it: "[[fishing from the same stream]]".) Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
	:I have long been in favor of weeding annotations (and slashing and burning). See comments above. Distinguishing between tropes and reverse (or forward) annotations is a good start. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 17:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC)		:I have long been in favor of weeding annotations (and slashing and burning). See comments above. Distinguishing between tropes and reverse (or forward) annotations is a good start. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 17:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC) This seems like such a rich mine of fishing from the same stream that I don't know where to start. AgProv certainly went overboard with Fusco... --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 01:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Old Dickens: /* Time for some weeding? */

2022-12-16T17:01:31Z

Time for some weeding?

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	A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. (Indeed, we even have an article about it: "[[fishing from the same stream]]".) Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)		A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. (Indeed, we even have an article about it: "[[fishing from the same stream]]".) Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
			:I have long been in favor of weeding annotations (and slashing and burning). See comments above. Distinguishing between tropes and reverse (or forward) annotations is a good start. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 17:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Guybrush: /* Time for some weeding? */ Added link to fishing from the same stream

2022-12-16T09:46:58Z

Time for some weeding?: Added link to fishing from the same stream

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	A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)		A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. (Indeed, we even have an article about it: "[[fishing from the same stream]]".) Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Guybrush: /* Time for some weeding? */ new section

2022-12-16T05:20:52Z

Time for some weeding?: new section

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	A dwarf with a stepladder. Hmmm. A bit tenuous for the main page, but an idea very worth sharing here! [[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 20:50, 1 June 2015 (UTC)		A dwarf with a stepladder. Hmmm. A bit tenuous for the main page, but an idea very worth sharing here! [[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 20:50, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

			== Time for some weeding? ==

			A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

AgProv: /* Big Bang */

2016-03-05T20:38:20Z

Big Bang

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	I'd have thought his improved taxonomy came from sleeping with the biologist. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 18:13, 3 March 2016 (UTC)		I'd have thought his improved taxonomy came from sleeping with the biologist. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 18:13, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

			Now, certainly! But then? [[User:AgProv\|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv\|talk]]) 20:38, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

	==Sharpe==		==Sharpe==

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	A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. (Indeed, we even have an article about it: "[[fishing from the same stream]]".) Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)		A lot of these "reverse annotations" really boil down to "these two things are similar"; as some of the previous discussions touch on, a lot of them are almost certainly just different expressions of an established or common trope, joke or archetype, rather than one thing referencing another. (Indeed, we even have an article about it: "[[fishing from the same stream]]".) Since TV Tropes, All the Tropes and probably other sites already do a much better job of that - including with many examples from the Discworld - can we weed some of these out? Or at least categorise these into ones which seem likely, given specific references and/or corroborating evidence, and ones which aren't? -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 05:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
	:I have long been in favor of weeding annotations (and slashing and burning). See comments above. Distinguishing between tropes and reverse (or forward) annotations is a good start. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 17:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC) This seems like such a rich mine of fishing from the same stream that I don't know where to start. AgProv certainly went overboard with Fusco... --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 01:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC)		:I have long been in favor of weeding annotations (and slashing and burning). See comments above. Distinguishing between tropes and reverse (or forward) annotations is a good start. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 17:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC) This seems like such a rich mine of fishing from the same stream that I don't know where to start. AgProv certainly went overboard with Fusco... --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 01:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
			::I've made a start! I'll come back periodically. I will probably also add some actual ones; a good place to start finding them is [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ReferencedBy/Discworld the TV Tropes "Referenced By" page for Discworld]. Those are all legit references, and there are quite a few we don't have. -- [[User:Guybrush\|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush\|talk]]) 07:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)