Talk:Archchancellor's Hat

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But how did it get back from Klatch?

How did the hat escape destruction in the blast that killed Abrim while he was wearing it?

It doesn't appear in Sourcery again after its presumed destruction... It's easier to assume discontinuity between the two books. --AgProv 17:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

(You wrote the book on this, but since you ask...) I'd be amazed if it didn't come back. How? How did the Luggage get back from MUCH farther away? It's a very magical Hat, inhabited by the shades of many skilled Mages who were likely anxious to get away from sheep's eyeballs and curry and back to virtual dinners from the UU kitchens. Transporting a quarter-pound of tattered fabric a couple of hundred miles doesn't sound like a lot compared to other feats of magic we've heard of. The physical hat was blown up pretty thoroughly, but the souls and wits of the former wearers aren't susceptible to mere fireballs or such physical manifestations. There, isn't that easy?

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Well, at least I wrote the fanfic.. I like to flatter myself that it fits as an account of how the Hat made it back to A-M and how it resolved a few continuity problems!

There is a kind of cop-out clause at the end of Sourcery, which might explain things. When just before Coin steps into Maligree's Garden for the last time, the Librarian exacts a promise from him to make everything as good as old. And I suppose "everything" implicitly includes the Hat... restored and replaced in that "out-of-the-way shelf where it ws no nuisance to anyone"

But this isn't explicitly stated... and of course Coin doesn't restore everything as good as old. Abrim remains dead, Creosote isn't magically transplanted back to a restored pleasure dome where all the stolen wealth has reappeared, (he remains in A-M. siging bad poetry to besotted barmaids), and of course none of the dead Wizards are resurrected. (And three Horsemen never get their horses back). Rincewind remains in the Dungeon Dimensions for an arguable period of time, only to be released through the agency of Eric Thursley. But naught is said, until now, of the Hat...

--AgProv 16:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC) Kudos for that. I wish I'd have one of my fanfics mistaken for canon material, though possibly that could only happen in the occasionaly self-contradicting Discworldian universe.

Maybe the hat's just one of those unknown variables, like how trolls turned to stone in the sunlight in early Discworld books but now the Troll Watchmen walk around in full daylight. Doctor Whiteface 16:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Lucky shot

But Spelter got through, not Coin. I'll find the reference soon. --Confusion 01:25, 6 November 2011 (CET)

You're correct; I remember this bit too. So, changing it. TC01 01:54, 6 November 2011 (CET)