http://wiki.lspace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Burleigh_%26_Stronginthearm&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Burleigh & Stronginthearm - Revision history2024-03-29T14:54:15ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.40.0http://wiki.lspace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Burleigh_%26_Stronginthearm&diff=34452&oldid=prevOld Dickens: /* Relevance? */2023-03-08T05:04:10Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Relevance?</span></span></p>
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</table>Old Dickenshttp://wiki.lspace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Burleigh_%26_Stronginthearm&diff=34442&oldid=prevGuybrush: Updated comment because I actually read the article again2023-03-08T01:25:12Z<p>Updated comment because I actually read the article again</p>
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</table>Guybrushhttp://wiki.lspace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Burleigh_%26_Stronginthearm&diff=34441&oldid=prevGuybrush: /* Relevance? */2023-03-08T01:22:33Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Relevance?</span></span></p>
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</table>Guybrushhttp://wiki.lspace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Burleigh_%26_Stronginthearm&diff=34438&oldid=prevOld Dickens: relevance?2023-03-07T16:39:21Z<p>relevance?</p>
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</table>Old Dickenshttp://wiki.lspace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Burleigh_%26_Stronginthearm&diff=28879&oldid=prevOld Dickens: very expensive guns2018-01-25T19:09:54Z<p>very expensive guns</p>
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</table>Old Dickenshttp://wiki.lspace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Burleigh_%26_Stronginthearm&diff=28878&oldid=prevThe Grumpy Iconographer at 17:42, 25 January 20182018-01-25T17:42:18Z<p></p>
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</table>The Grumpy Iconographerhttp://wiki.lspace.org/index.php?title=Talk:Burleigh_%26_Stronginthearm&diff=28877&oldid=prevThe Grumpy Iconographer at 17:41, 25 January 20182018-01-25T17:41:08Z<p></p>
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<p><b>New page</b></p><div>I don't know how much info there ought to be in this Wiki! but I can't help asking: the entry on Burleigh & StrongintheArm doesn't note the cryptonym it creates.<br />
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To me, the ampersand is significant, because it allows Burleigh & StrongintheArm to be abbreviated to "BSA" - and purely by coincidence, of course, on this world there is an armaments and motorcycle manufacturer called "Birmingham Small Arms" or "BSA"...<br />
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Is this a spoiler? or can someone add it as a curiosity note?<br />
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BSA made small arms for the British armed forces for most of the 19th century (the Martini-Henry rifle of "Zulu!" fame was made by BSA, as was the Webley officers' pistol) so this could be a valid reference, given they supply the Watch and the Regiments in Victorian-feeling Ankh-Morpork... of course, Birmingham declined in importance as an arms manufacturing centre in the 20th century, when the British Army adopted the Lee-Enfield rifles, made (as the name suggests)in Enfield, London. --[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 12:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC) (definitely mad as a bagful of weasels for bothering to know all this useless stuff)<br />
:BSA also made over a million Enfields during WWII. I did a lot of target shooting with their "Super Sporter" .22 some ages ago. As usual, I'm not so convinced of the connection to B&S (Stronginthearm is all one word for a start.) --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 14:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)</div>Old Dickens