Talk:Patrician Question

In 1967 a Patrician celebrated his 10th anniversary. Had this been Lord Winder, the Revolution would have been 1968 (his term was eleven years.) That means Samuel Vimes b. 1952, aged 33 in 1985 for the Great Dragon Scare: too young. If Lord Snapcase had the anniversary, the barricades rose in 1957. Now S. Vimes b. 1941, aged 44 in 1985. This fits the description and calls for a jump of 32 years from Sir Sam in 1989 to Sam the recruit in 1957.

In Thud!, in 1990, Fred says it's been "more than thirty years" since the GR. Also from Thud!, Sam is at least 51 in 1990, pushing his birth back to 1939. Perhaps he was older than 16 when he joined the Watch, but this argues against the GR being much later than 1957.

Vetinari and Vimes are about the same age, turning 30 in 1969/70. Orin Thomas places Sourcery in 1973, although this might be argued, at which time Vetinari was the Patrician (although mostly a toad). Vetinari was back in A-M by 1968 and Patrician only a few years later.

This also means that Vetinari as the fat Patrician in The Colour of Magic would have been 25 years old!

Link to Michael Stocker's alternative timeline (in .pdf format) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Old Dickens 01:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

In COM reference is made to the Thieves Guild. In several books in the Discworld series, it's mentioned that Patrician Vetinari was responsible for establishing (or something) a Thieves Guild to "organize crime." This would make Vetinari Patritian during and before COM. Perhaps the History Monks had something to do with this?

I seem to recall Vetinary was resonsable for legalising the guild's only. this does not appear to create too much of a continuity issue. --BOZZ 15:27, 19 November 2010 (CET)