Talk:Margolotta

I cannot edit the article on my phone but durring the footballer meeting where lord vetinari(gasp!) drinks beer, it is revealed as she is the founding member of the black ribboners(temperence league) I think it was revealed in a earlier book as well but don't hold me to it ~~Frogz~~

Which Margolotta?

I've just encountered another suggestion (outside the wiki) that Margolotta is the font of all evil in recent Discworld history. Because she appears in the same book with the Evil Empire, she is accused of leading it. AgProv has written some condemnation here as well, and there seems to be great ambivalence about her character and contributions. I don't see anything in the canon describing her as anything but the font and promoter of the new order of progress and peace among the species. Wasn't she the force behind peace among the ancient enemies of Überwald, Vetinari's first teacher in political science and the rescuer of the last Orcs? Vampires are not sympathetic characters to start, but I think the point is that she has overcome the Vampire trope and Wizards have given up destroying the landscape and Detritus is a smarter Troll, some Dwarves can consider more than gold and Werewolves can be vegetarians (most of the time).

Is she a victim of sexism as well as speciesism? Vetinari is not necessarily nice, he does what's necessary for the greater good. If someone takes the wrong door out of the Oblong Office we don't call him an evil despot. They're alike as two peas; Margolotta's just been at it longer. Why would Havelock Vetinari maintain this lifelong friendship with this evil person bent on mischief toward the world he's working toward? --Old Dickens 02:26, 25 April 2011 (CEST)