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There seems to be a problem in the history of the A-M monarchy. While allowing that the Kings of Ankh disappeared >2000 Years ago, it says they include the Veltricks from only 400 years ago (later than some Cirones; the Cirones themselves are confusing). The dates are credited to The New Discworld Companion but I don't see any there in Monarchy or Ankh-Morpork. This precedes the history; does anyone have an explanation? --Old Dickens (talk) 01:34, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

If 2,000 years ago, Stoneface Vimes would have needed to be a very distant ancestor indeed. Also, would the country seat of Lorenzo the Kind with all its unique playrooms have survived so well that it's preserved as a tourist attraction on one of the Rail Way lines? AgProv (talk) 17:17, 15 February 2018 (UTC)