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We'll have to merge this one with Visit... --Sanity 20:01, 27 December 2006 (CET)

Yea. I have a combined article; do we wait the regulation five days? ..--Old Dickens 02:06, 29 December 2006 (CET)
Just add it ;-) --Death 10:50, 29 December 2006 (CET)

Possible Annotation:

"Washpot", Visit's Watch nickname, evokes a suggestion of Stephen Fry's autobiography "Moab is my Washpot", itself a slight misreading of one of those Old Testament quotes (Psalm 60:8) where the LORD promises to smite Israel's heathen neighbours and humble them in various inventively unedifying ways before the Chosen People. Moab, as Israel's closest neighbour, gets smitten more often than most (only because there are no more Midianites,) and being turned into a vessel where the Chosen People may wash the grime off their feet seems a pretty humble fate...--AgProv 14:52, 2 May 2007 (CEST)


Members of despised evangelical religions tend to console themselves with thoughts of the above nature, when the proud and the worldly and the ungodly spurn and mock both the Divinity's message of salvation - and the messenger... thie thought that the ungodly will be chastised and punished is what sustains Visit every time the Omnian message is spurned. --AgProv 23:29, 2 May 2007 (CEST)

Is there nowhere to run?

On my morning commute to work today, the bus was full of clean-cut Mormon missionaries exuding holiness and piety. They were on their way to spread the news of Christ's North American encore in one of the less favoured parts of Manchester... on the way they practiced on their fellow travellers.

I like to think I got a few digs into my would-be saviour, largely about the Mormon church's historical attitude to women and black people. (the Church of LDS maintained a racist theology up until the 1970's: it only reluctantly stopped being a whites-only church when the US Gov't threatened to remove the tax privileges American churches get, on the grounds that the tax system could not be seen to be rewarding racism). If the Founders of Mormonism could be wrong about black people, and wrong about polygamy, what else, including things you are currently preaching as articles of faith, could be wrong? And in any case, if the theology came direct from God, you then changed it under pressure from the Inland Revenue Service. Does this mean that:-

i) The United States Inland Revenue Service is a higher authority wielding more power than God Almighty;

ii) You valued the money more than fidelity to your God, which makes the Mormon Church at heart a follower of Mammon. If you really believed you'd have put God first, and taken the hit;

iii) At heart, your church is still white and patriarchal - how deeply do you really believe in the equality of black people and all women? Also, this bus leads straight through an area of Manchester with an Afro-Carribean majority population and I don't see a black face amongst you...

I hate people who spoil my quiet morning commute to work - I hope commuter evangelism doesn't catch on!--AgProv 14:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

-- i) God forgives, the IRS doesn't, and the IRS is closer to hand. --Old Dickens 13:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC) --

"I am Death, not taxes. I only turn up once. " 22:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


I was rereading Jingo (Harper, American I think), and it gave his name as Visit-The-Ungodly-With-Explanatory-Pamphlets. Is this version used elsewhere or is it just this copy? --Confusion (talk) 20:09, 15 December 2013 (GMT)

No, also in the footnote on p.128 of the Corgi pb. It's translated and transliterated from the Omnian, remember, so there could be even more versions. --Old Dickens (talk) 20:50, 15 December 2013 (GMT)